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Playing devil's advocate if you don't want to do the take home test then they just filtered you out and actually is serving their desires on who they want to hire.
A reasonably-scoped take-home project is fine in isolation. The problem is the sheer number of steps required, of which the project is just one step. For example for a recent position I looked at: 1. Initial interview with some HR person: 1 hour 2. Interview with a tech person and review some code sample (spot security issues, bugs etc): 1.5 hours 3. Take home project (supposed to take 2 hours, but you'll want to mak…
Serving 250k developers with one support engineer
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Re: Serving 250k developers with one support engineer
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Is that something you can reasonably prepare for as a company? Like just keep a bunch of extra support people on payroll in case there's a catastrophic event?
What a great question. Perhaps the answer is “not entirely” but draw up some best effort contingency plans (pool of contractors, insurance cover, etc). I still wouldn’t be highlighting how few support staff I have per customer like this in either case!
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This is such a hack response. >not necessarily nefarious It might not be nefarious, but if companies are putting out "feelers", and I'm investing ~30 hours per company, and half the companies I'm applying to are like this, then there's a huge waste of time (mine and theirs). I've started calling out this bullshit: "is there a job here, or is this a position to gauge the market?" >10 hours of interviewing is barely mo…
> This is such a hack response. Please be civil. Posting multiple job listings targeting different salary ranges isn’t a “hack response”. It’s literally how you hire properly without a crystal ball to predict exactly who will apply. Again, no company is going to drag candidates through interviews for jobs that don’t exist. I don’t understand why anything thinks that’s the case. Interviewing is work for the interviewe…
They didn't cut down on the process, or the five stage interview processes during the last two years of over hiring, they doubled down on them.
There are very few careers where entire industries like leetcode, hackerrank, coderpad etc have been founded to promote the practice of making every Dev slog through a mass of made up crap intent on wasting the time of everyone involved to make HR feel like they've achieved something.
Re: Serving 250k developers with one support engineer
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This is such a hack response. >not necessarily nefarious It might not be nefarious, but if companies are putting out "feelers", and I'm investing ~30 hours per company, and half the companies I'm applying to are like this, then there's a huge waste of time (mine and theirs). I've started calling out this bullshit: "is there a job here, or is this a position to gauge the market?" >10 hours of interviewing is barely mo…
> This is such a hack response. Please be civil. Posting multiple job listings targeting different salary ranges isn’t a “hack response”. It’s literally how you hire properly without a crystal ball to predict exactly who will apply. Again, no company is going to drag candidates through interviews for jobs that don’t exist. I don’t understand why anything thinks that’s the case. Interviewing is work for the interviewe…
This happens all the time. The team will have an internal candidate they want, but HR dept is worried about optics of fairness, so the team is forced to put on a show by interviewing people who have no chance of being hired.
Re: Serving 250k developers with one support engineer
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Thank you. Aptible looks promising. I have a question about endpoints. It seems like you guys charge per endpoint. I don't quite understand this. So if I'm developing an api only application, every api endpoint I develop in my application will be charged? And for Aptible to keep track, would I have to register each endpoint I develop? If my application was just serving dynamic html pages, I wouldn't be charged per ur…
"Endpoints" on Aptible are load balancers. So you would pay for each load balancer your API needs (usually just 1), not every API endpoint. Thanks for the feedback on that — we will update the language to be clear that these are load balancers, not API endpoints. We don't provide a solution for implementing SSO in your own application, but many of our customers do integrate with Auth0 without issue. For your own team…
Another question. I tried looking for the answer on the website, but couldn't find it. Is it possible to use my own AWS account and integrate it with Aptible or does Aptible provide their AWS assets for my use? The former would be ideal for us as we would like to own (more accurately, rent them ourselves) all of our AWS assets and just have someone like Aptible help us to manage them.
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#76What an impressive company. A good reminder that, even in a market with umpteen competitors, success comes down to execution. Hope they keep up the good work.
Railway does look impressive. However, as someone in the market for a Heroku alternative - I’d say there really aren’t any Heroku competitors. At least nothing directly comparable. The thing that keeps me (and I’m sure other small business owners) tied to Heroku is just how much they take care of for you. I literally never ever want to think about my infrastructure beyond initial setup. Heroku, to my knowledge, is th…
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"Endpoints" on Aptible are load balancers. So you would pay for each load balancer your API needs (usually just 1), not every API endpoint. Thanks for the feedback on that — we will update the language to be clear that these are load balancers, not API endpoints. We don't provide a solution for implementing SSO in your own application, but many of our customers do integrate with Auth0 without issue. For your own team…
Thanks, that clears things up. Another question. I tried looking for the answer on the website, but couldn't find it. Is it possible to use my own AWS account and integrate it with Aptible or does Aptible provide their AWS assets for my use? The former would be ideal for us as we would like to own (more accurately, rent them ourselves) all of our AWS assets and just have someone like Aptible help us to manage them.
Alternatively, have you checked out other PaaS-in-your-own-IaaS solutions like:
- https://www.flightcontrol.dev/
- https://coolify.io/ (OSS, not managed)
These might not meet all your needs, and I think they're all relatively new.
Re: Serving 250k developers with one support engineer
#79What an impressive company. A good reminder that, even in a market with umpteen competitors, success comes down to execution. Hope they keep up the good work.
Railway does look impressive. However, as someone in the market for a Heroku alternative - I’d say there really aren’t any Heroku competitors. At least nothing directly comparable. The thing that keeps me (and I’m sure other small business owners) tied to Heroku is just how much they take care of for you. I literally never ever want to think about my infrastructure beyond initial setup. Heroku, to my knowledge, is th…
- Serving >100k users
- Helping you to achieve SOC 2
In my capacity as one of the leaders at a Heroku alternative PaaS, I've studied the PaaS market a bit to understand the space and available alternatives to Heroku. Here's what I've found about some of the most popular:
- Fly is managing its own infrastructure allowing it to be extremely competitive on cost. But on the flip side, its heavy focus on infrastructure is missing the “managed” options that make PaaS so valuable, such as a true Managed Database offering. This IMO makes it less of a viable alternative to Heroku.
- Render is offering a more truly “managed” alternative, and is innovating on cost as well. But it’s early and is still missing some table stakes reliability features that you'd probably expect from a Heroku alternative.
- Railway has a blockbuster FTUX, I love deploying and using PostgreSQL databases in the UI without even signing up. Coincidentally probably how it got to its count of 250k developers. But it’s own docs caution that it’s not exactly production ready, especially its databases.
- Platform.sh has grown really well by focusing on enterprise marketing teams and their use cases. I think this is a great niche for them and has paid off well. In their capacity of working with enterprises I'm sure they could handle SOC 2, etc.
- Aptible has run critical web apps and APIs dealing with sensitive data for hundreds of companies and has helped a few go public or get to billion dollar acquisitions. I am certainly biased, but Aptible seems to be the only non-Heroku PaaS focused on product/engineering teams that has repeatedly handled true "production" requirements, like your larger user base (many of our customers fit this description) and SOC 2 (most of our customers use our security & compliance dashboard for this). But that comes at a cost: Aptible is typically more expensive than the others, perhaps save for Platform.sh.
Disclaimer: I'm one of the leaders at Aptible, which in my (admittedly biased) view is the best positioned alternative to Heroku for product/engineering teams that have any sort of scale or production use case.
Re: Serving 250k developers with one support engineer
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Railway does look impressive. However, as someone in the market for a Heroku alternative - I’d say there really aren’t any Heroku competitors. At least nothing directly comparable. The thing that keeps me (and I’m sure other small business owners) tied to Heroku is just how much they take care of for you. I literally never ever want to think about my infrastructure beyond initial setup. Heroku, to my knowledge, is th…
Like others have said there are a number of Heroku alternatives out there that are more or less viable to meet your requirements, which I've gathered to be: - Serving >100k users - Helping you to achieve SOC 2 In my capacity as one of the leaders at a Heroku alternative PaaS, I've studied the PaaS market a bit to understand the space and available alternatives to Heroku. Here's what I've found about some of the most…