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Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by metacritic12 »

ShakataGaNai wrote: post #57

What is the end goal of this project? Mapping runways and taxiways isn't ... useful? At least in the United States if it's a field big enough for a K-designation, then there is an Airport Diagram published by the FAA. And therefor public domain. Ex: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2302/00568ad.pdf Something like OpenStreetMap makes sense because there is no public domain published map of everything. I'm sure there is s…

I personally would love a map telling me which parts of which airports are most connected airside, and average moving times between different regions of the airport.

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by mdaniel »

lisper wrote: post #55

Very nice! But when I try to look at LAX it says: Couldn't find airport with ICAO code "KLAX". All other airports seem to work though, so this is a strange bug.

It's due to what appears to be a bogus error message in the response to https://openairportmap.org/api/airport/KLAX>:

  "remark": "runtime error: Query timed out in \"query\" at line 6 after 29 seconds."
I say bogus error message because for sure that URL did not take 29 seconds to return (221ms according to Firefox). I'd guess the query is malformed and their api interprets the error as a "timeout" instead of "error"

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by tiffanyh »

ShakataGaNai wrote: post #57

What is the end goal of this project? Mapping runways and taxiways isn't ... useful? At least in the United States if it's a field big enough for a K-designation, then there is an Airport Diagram published by the FAA. And therefor public domain. Ex: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2302/00568ad.pdf Something like OpenStreetMap makes sense because there is no public domain published map of everything. I'm sure there is s…

There’s even an official Jeppesen map for the north pole

https://ww2.jeppesen.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/north-po...

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by rippercushions »

ShakataGaNai wrote: post #57

What is the end goal of this project? Mapping runways and taxiways isn't ... useful? At least in the United States if it's a field big enough for a K-designation, then there is an Airport Diagram published by the FAA. And therefor public domain. Ex: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2302/00568ad.pdf Something like OpenStreetMap makes sense because there is no public domain published map of everything. I'm sure there is s…

As far as I can tell this is OpenStreetMap, but filtered to show just the airport data.

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by mshockwave »

For some reason it couldn't find LAX's full designation, KLAX. Also, just realized SNA, an tiny local airport, has a whopping 5000+ft runway, longer than some major ones like SFO or BOS.

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by ericpauley »

ecommerceguy wrote: post #60
bhargav wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re a Cartographer and have made thousands of maps surely you know that some maps are for different audiences and use cases. This might just seem odd to you because you haven’t used this information in a manner laid out here, but trust me that it’s valuable!

This is exactly my point - however there is nothing clear about the intended use of this map. Former Cartographer - deriding my paying attention you abandon yours.

It shows airport data from OpenStreetMap. It's posted on a site targeted at software developers. Is it that much of a stretch to conclude it's for use by people interested in machine-readable data on airports?

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by ShakataGaNai »

tiffanyh wrote: post #63
ShakataGaNai wrote: post #57

What is the end goal of this project? Mapping runways and taxiways isn't ... useful? At least in the United States if it's a field big enough for a K-designation, then there is an Airport Diagram published by the FAA. And therefor public domain. Ex: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2302/00568ad.pdf Something like OpenStreetMap makes sense because there is no public domain published map of everything. I'm sure there is s…

There’s even an official Jeppesen map for the north pole https://ww2.jeppesen.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/north-po...

Oh my goodness, that is hilarious. Just 100% Easter eggs. I think my favorite is "If Dasher sick, reduce speed by 2 reindeer"

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by ShakataGaNai »

metacritic12 wrote: post #61
ShakataGaNai wrote: post #57

What is the end goal of this project? Mapping runways and taxiways isn't ... useful? At least in the United States if it's a field big enough for a K-designation, then there is an Airport Diagram published by the FAA. And therefor public domain. Ex: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2302/00568ad.pdf Something like OpenStreetMap makes sense because there is no public domain published map of everything. I'm sure there is s…

I personally would love a map telling me which parts of which airports are most connected airside, and average moving times between different regions of the airport.

From a pedestrian perspective? Yea. I could totally see that being useful for a lot of large airports.

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by billfor »

ericpauley wrote: post #35
ecommerceguy wrote: post #31

Looks more like a cad drawing than a map. I'm sorry but as a rather prolific former cartographer (I've made thousands of maps for hundreds of clients) what is the goal of this map? Showing terminal locations? Where to park? Size relative to surroundings? Location of manholes? Noise compatibility?

I’m sorry but as a pilot who routinely uses airport diagrams what specific weakness are you seeing? As you are probably aware, not all maps are intended to have some beautiful aesthetic. This map is quite akin in style to the layout of airport maps (diagrams) published for actual pilot use.

Well for one thing the taxiway letters and runway markings are missing. If it’s a “map” I would expect to use it for directions.

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by ericpauley »

dtgriscom wrote: post #54
ericpauley wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sorry but as a pilot who routinely uses airport diagrams what specific weakness are you seeing? As you are probably aware, not all maps are intended to have some beautiful aesthetic. This map is quite akin in style to the layout of airport maps (diagrams) published for actual pilot use.

You derided the question, but then answered it: this is for pilot use.

I wouldn't necessarily say it is. It's an automated visualization of machine-readable data on airports. If you were processing this data, you'd want a visualization like this.
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