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Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Why doesn't Nokia allow me to preorder or sign up to be notified when the device is released/available in my market?

A search for g22 on nokia.com yields zero (!!) results. https://www.nokia.com/search/global/en/G22

I'll be shopping for a new phone soon and am interested in this model. But wow, they've missed a huge opportunity to capture that interest and let me know when I can buy!

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> It runs Android 12 and will be supported for three years of monthly security updates and two major Android version upgrades. And that's why I stick to iPhones for long-lasting devices, those two major versions are a joke. Apple has the crown with seven on the iPhone 6S. When will someone make Android phones other than Pixels with non-abysmal software support? Yes, I know you can install alternate ROMs on your phone…

> when they cannot install whatsapp or messenger or their banking app anymore. Hyperbole much? That's a ridiculous claim. I've been sporting a "renewed" Samsung S10E since early 2021. There's still nothing it can't do. Prior to that I owned a Galaxy S7 since 2016! That's a 5 whole years without any phone issues on an Android phone. I turned on the S7 a few months back and after an update, all the apps still work.

that's at least 3 years each using a phone with absolutely no security updates to network, wifi, cryptolibs, html/js engine etc.

not that iphone are any better. you have zero idea what you get on a new ios for old devices since the binaries are not the same. only thing you can be certain is the extra slow down loop

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Yes, I had to throw away my perfectly capable phone because my banking app refused to work at some point because the version of Android was too old and the phone stopped supporting newer versions of Android. Edit: not sarcastic, 100% serious.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I have 5+ year old Android phones that have no issue with banking apps. I'm not sure where this rhetoric is coming from, but it doesn't align with my experience on Android. Capital one/wells fargo requires android 8+. Citi bank 7.1+. (I stopped looking it up at this point). 8 was released in 2017. So assuming 2 years of major OS updates, that means roughly phones from 20…

Can’t carriers lock OS versions? I remember a long time ago circa Android 4 I had to replace a bunch of deployed devices because Verizon wouldn’t allow upgrades.

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> when they cannot install whatsapp or messenger or their banking app anymore. Hyperbole much? That's a ridiculous claim. I've been sporting a "renewed" Samsung S10E since early 2021. There's still nothing it can't do. Prior to that I owned a Galaxy S7 since 2016! That's a 5 whole years without any phone issues on an Android phone. I turned on the S7 a few months back and after an update, all the apps still work.

that's at least 3 years each using a phone with absolutely no security updates to network, wifi, cryptolibs, html/js engine etc. not that iphone are any better. you have zero idea what you get on a new ios for old devices since the binaries are not the same. only thing you can be certain is the extra slow down loop

The HTML/JS engine does get updated, it's contained in a component called "Android System WebView" on the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...

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> It runs Android 12 and will be supported for three years of monthly security updates and two major Android version upgrades. And that's why I stick to iPhones for long-lasting devices, those two major versions are a joke. Apple has the crown with seven on the iPhone 6S. When will someone make Android phones other than Pixels with non-abysmal software support? Yes, I know you can install alternate ROMs on your phone…

It will likely be running LineageOS (formerly Cyanogenmod) for a decade to come.

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Security updates are a must. Without them it's not a usable device

The fault is not with the bank, but with the vendor of the phone. The hardware is perfectly capable of running newer Android versions, but the phone simply doesn't support them.

This is especially the case with lower end phones. My mother (an immigrant whose family communicates via WhatsApp, and other free services) buys a new phone every year or so because her BoA, or transit app can’t be used without the version of Android that was never released for her phone.

It’s some real “serpent eating its own tail” sh*t if I ever saw it.

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> when they cannot install whatsapp or messenger or their banking app anymore. Hyperbole much? That's a ridiculous claim. I've been sporting a "renewed" Samsung S10E since early 2021. There's still nothing it can't do. Prior to that I owned a Galaxy S7 since 2016! That's a 5 whole years without any phone issues on an Android phone. I turned on the S7 a few months back and after an update, all the apps still work.

that's at least 3 years each using a phone with absolutely no security updates to network, wifi, cryptolibs, html/js engine etc. not that iphone are any better. you have zero idea what you get on a new ios for old devices since the binaries are not the same. only thing you can be certain is the extra slow down loop

Samsung supports 4 years of updates as of last February. The S10E is in that window, too.

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-android-updates-114...

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Or, you know, those that want their phones supported for longer than two years. Minimizing a group of people does nothing but stroke your own ego. There are many reasons to buy an iPhone. There are many reasons to buy an Android. Buying one or the other says nothing about you as a person and implying otherwise is absurd and childish. We’re not on Reddit; this is supposed to be adults having conversations not preteen…

Who is worshipping iOS here then?

Nobody. Did you even read the comment you replied to? The one that says there are reasons to buy each OS? Pointing out a clear advantage is not worshipping, it’s just pointing out a clear advantage.

Price is a clear advantage for Android phones. Does that make me an Android worshipper now?

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