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Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by ericpauley »

ecommerceguy wrote: post #38
ericpauley wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sorry but as a pilot who routinely uses airport diagrams what specific weakness are you seeing? As you are probably aware, not all maps are intended to have some beautiful aesthetic. This map is quite akin in style to the layout of airport maps (diagrams) published for actual pilot use.

As a frequent flyer on small aircraft (nearly all of one side of my family has worked in aviation: cessna, boeing, piper, beech, embraer) - this looks nothing like the charts I'm used to viewing.

I’m specifically referring to the lack of aesthetic details.

For instance, IFR charts (https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/productc...) show just essential routing information.

Here’s an example taxi diagram: https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aip_html...

Again the key point I’m highlighting is lack of extraneous aesthetic.

The view is even more similar to that used by ATC: https://atctower.com/what-the-atc-controller-sees-tech-in-th...

If you’ve ridden a lot in planes, you may be used to looking at VFR sectionals (https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/productc...). These have more aesthetic detail precisely because they’re intended for visual navigation.

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by 867-5309 »

throwaway049 wrote: post #19
niklasrde wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That could have sooo many reasons. "Berlin Municipal Airport" does come before "Flughafen Berlin Brandenburg" in the alphabet. But.. looking for "London", 2 of the first 3 airports are in North America and arguably a lot of people would not count any of the first 5 (Lydd, Oxford & Southend) as London. Heathrow doesn't show up at all without specifying further.

How do these peripheral airports get to name themselves in such a misleading way? 'London Oxford airport' isn't even in Oxford; locals still call it Kidlington airport.

Oxford is a commuter city for London - you can drive to/from the centre of each in around 90mins

or London Heathrow to Oxford Airport in around 60mins

that's no time at all compared to the driving distances between major US cities, which I'm guessing is what this is based on

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by bhargav »

ecommerceguy wrote: post #31

Looks more like a cad drawing than a map. I'm sorry but as a rather prolific former cartographer (I've made thousands of maps for hundreds of clients) what is the goal of this map? Showing terminal locations? Where to park? Size relative to surroundings? Location of manholes? Noise compatibility?

This has all the information a pilot would need to take off and land from an airport. Airport maps are usually available for free in US but at least I have yet to find some for some Canadian airports. The Canadian organizations sell those. There are paid apps you can get. This looks like a good free alternative.

Addendum: someone mentioned Airnav. Just to see the lack of open and up to date data available freely, look at SFO [1] and look at YYZ [2]. SFO has an airport diagram showing taxy ways and runways and some other meta information. nothing for YYZ.

1: https://www.airnav.com/airport/SFO

2: https://www.airnav.com/airport/CYYZ

Re: Open Airport Map

#44

Post by bhargav »

ecommerceguy wrote: post #38
ericpauley wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sorry but as a pilot who routinely uses airport diagrams what specific weakness are you seeing? As you are probably aware, not all maps are intended to have some beautiful aesthetic. This map is quite akin in style to the layout of airport maps (diagrams) published for actual pilot use.

As a frequent flyer on small aircraft (nearly all of one side of my family has worked in aviation: cessna, boeing, piper, beech, embraer) - this looks nothing like the charts I'm used to viewing.

If you’re a Cartographer and have made thousands of maps surely you know that some maps are for different audiences and use cases. This might just seem odd to you because you haven’t used this information in a manner laid out here, but trust me that it’s valuable!

Re: Open Airport Map

#45

Post by cmurf »

ericpauley wrote: post #35
ecommerceguy wrote: post #31

Looks more like a cad drawing than a map. I'm sorry but as a rather prolific former cartographer (I've made thousands of maps for hundreds of clients) what is the goal of this map? Showing terminal locations? Where to park? Size relative to surroundings? Location of manholes? Noise compatibility?

I’m sorry but as a pilot who routinely uses airport diagrams what specific weakness are you seeing? As you are probably aware, not all maps are intended to have some beautiful aesthetic. This map is quite akin in style to the layout of airport maps (diagrams) published for actual pilot use.

I'm confused why it shows detail like holding position markings, but not taxiways or hot spots. And it conflates locations using different hold short markings (ILS and runway).

Re: Open Airport Map

#46

Post by thex10 »

c0nsumer wrote: post #2

This is a neat looking site, but for some reason on Firefox it prompts for location every few seconds. I allow it, but don't check the 'Remember this decision' box. It even is showing my current location and still popping up the box. This is the first time I've seen a site do this... Maybe it's turning on and off detailed location repeatedly?

Same on Safari when I change airports (and I have to decline every time).

Re: Open Airport Map

#47

Post by Svip »

A bit disappointing that one has to search for an airport to have it displayed. One of my favourite parts of OpenRailwayMap is to explore tracks I'm unfamiliar with (particularly abandoned tracks), but this map seems to require one to know where one is going, rather than exploring.

Re: Open Airport Map

#48

Post by cargolux »

niklasrde wrote: post #10

I just spent 20 minutes flying to various airports I've been to in person. Curious to see space/gate/terminal efficiency and closeness from one central point at eg DUS and FRA with the evolution that is LHR. LUX and LCY are also interesting: comparable max passenger numbers of 4M-5M, LUX has 2x> as many weekend slots as LCY, presumably similar clientel (though LUX does more hub flights I reckon), and very different s…

LUX is a much bigger air cargo hub than a passenger airport; that's the difference. There hasn't been long-haul/wide-body passenger service there in many years, but that 4000m runway sees real use. Usually 50% more freight aircraft movements (and many multiples the mass) than passenger aircraft at LUX.

LCY is a one-trick-pony: a private airport for European finance bros.

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by remram »

Svip wrote: post #47

A bit disappointing that one has to search for an airport to have it displayed. One of my favourite parts of OpenRailwayMap is to explore tracks I'm unfamiliar with (particularly abandoned tracks), but this map seems to require one to know where one is going, rather than exploring.

That is true, zooming in on an airport won't let you see its features, you'll have to read its name and put it on the searchbox for that part of the map to be displayed. You'd expect that zooming in on an airport would allow you to see it, or at the minimum to be able to click on an airport to load it up.
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