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Vim? Really? No text editor will make you a good programmer. I barely use/know Vim with 20 years of programming experience.
Vim is like Dvozak keyboard. Consistency and standardisation is more important than 1% performance improvement.
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I use (Neo)vim as my daily driver, professionally (for the past 4 years, coming from Goland). I've found every other editor to be too heavy/slow (VScode/Jetbrains), or too noisy (regarding features). Neovim allows me to specify the precise minimum I desire to have a fully functional IDE-like experience (basically treesitter + LSP + DAP + minimal extra plugins). It's super fast, I'm already in my shell, and my memory…
Once I learned how to use vs code productively it really changed my mind. The other day I needed to do a quick base64 encode and vs code had that. Same goes for formatting some json or doing a diff. It's all available in a single tool with no learning curve. Hell it even has git and git blame in there.
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> I'm not a talented developer > [uses F#] That has to be humblebragging. The average .net developer is terrified of or doesn't even know about F#.
I’ve encountered the same thing. I’m a terrible programmer but find f# way clearer than most C#/java. But I work with tons of great developers who would rather cut off their finger than learn f#, it bothers me because it exposes some fundamental difference between us I dont like to believe exists.
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>Basics of networking, how installation of programs happens, how to use the command line, that kind of thing. um yea thats my job dude and i fought for it so other people should too these people waltzing in not knowing shot should not get into CS
One of those cases that some people are so unreasonable, you can't tell what's sarcas m
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>Basics of networking, how installation of programs happens, how to use the command line, that kind of thing. um yea thats my job dude and i fought for it so other people should too these people waltzing in not knowing shot should not get into CS
One of those cases that some people are so unreasonable, you can't tell what's sarcas m
I get that they chose Vim because it's more popular, but it feels as weird as taking a course from Apple that teaches you how to use Windows.
Lots of laudatory comments here about this being essential but missing teaching but I have a different take. The content looks good, nothing wrong with teaching these things. But these things can be and are learned on the job fairly quickly for anyone interested enough in the field and with enough aptitude. In fact, I would say these things can be learned on your own time as a side effect of being interested in compu…
I think it can be useful to distinguish between the "known and unknown unknowns" here. For example, everyone will quickly realise that that they need to know git, and they will learn what they need to know (a known unknown). A university course would maybe save them time, but it would not really change what you know after 2 years in industry. Compared to e.g awk or shell scripting which can be incredible usefull, but…
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A talented developer who doesn't know how to set a breakpoint sounds contradictory to me.
Hi! I'm that person! Senior engineer, decade of experience. I've used debuggers in the past, both for running code and looking at core dumps, but I really don't find them to be cost effective for the vast majority of problems. Just write a print statement! So when I switched from C to python and go a couple jobs ago, I never bothered learning how to use the debuggers for those languages. I don't miss them.
- Students used to get this stuff but no longer do, for example all workstations used to be unix, so when you left, you "knew" "unix" (shell, vim, etc)
- Due to things like ABET, classes are crammed with need-to-know-for-accreditation info so, well, some items need to go by the wayside (many are in the MIT list)
- There is a huge push, even by ABET, for security and crypto to be somehow integrated into nearly every class.
- Professors seem aware that we need this "missing class", but it is hard for administrators to implement, because: Universities were pressured into lowering credits to grad, so some courses were removed, so there is no room left for another course.