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Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by MattPalmer1086 »

LatteLazy wrote: post #46

I once again find myself apologizing for my country and trying to explain that in 20 years our (very severe) boomer infestation will be fixed and we'll be a real place again. Sorry.

I'm afraid to say that in 40 years, the next generation will be apologising for you.

Edit: by which I do not mean to insult you. I am saying that Britain has structural and cultural problems that transcend generations. It's popular for younger generations to blame "boomers", but in reality later generations will come in for the same criticism.

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Post by vixen99 »

908B64B197 wrote: post #11
quantum_state wrote: post #4

Was it the same UK government that put Turing into jail?

The state forced him to undergo chemical castration. Same state kept his achievements and contribution to the war effort a secret up until after his death. Crazy to think he was convicted in 1952. Same year Elizabeth became Queen and head of state. She could have simply overturned his conviction. The man saved women, men, children, of all races and orientations from an horrible end. Had he not cracked the enigma's cr…

Horrible indeed but it wasn't just Britain that failed in extending humanity. According to Wikipedia, in America, 'Prior to 1962, sodomy was a felony in every state, punished by a lengthy term of imprisonment and/or hard labor'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_Stat...

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by Stephanemw »

nivenkos wrote: post #49
andrewstuart wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do people in UK feel about the food shortages? Do they blame brexit?

A lot of Europe is suffering shortages the same though, it's just that in the UK the supermarkets refused to pay more. Whereas like here in Sweden you can buy tomatoes, but they now cost $10 per kg.

Production costs varying over the seasons or supply availability I can understand.

I can't understand how /every/ UK supermarket chain made the same decision to decline the higher costs without asking myself if they spoke to each other about it. Emergent behaviour caused by racing to the bottom?

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by michaelmrose »

upwardbound wrote: post #26
desro wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm (non-confrontationally) curious if you fact checked this before posting, or if it was a quick copy and paste. Truly: just curious.

quick copy & paste, as I stated I did not bother to fact check since I'm in the middle of work and in a rush and figured that giving a disclaimer that I didn't fact check it was enuf

Anyone here can enter a search into google or query chatGPT if they want to. It brings down the level of discourse to paste a stream of consciousness, a google search, or your convo with chatGPT. You are wasting everyone's time and giving a disclaimer that you intend to waste everyone's time changes little.

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Post by omnicognate »

andrewstuart wrote: post #6

This is the same country that considered their advances in computing during World War 2 to be so important that they hid them and left the USA to capitalise on the innovation. We'll leave our poor UK cousins to carry out their "techxit".

> considered their advances in computing during World War 2 to be so important that they hid them and left the USA to capitalise on the innovation

Can you expand on that or provide a link? The codebreaking work (Colossus) was kept secret until the 70s but the researchers involved went on to successful academic and commercial projects immediately after the war, with ENIAC (a more general machine than Colossus) built in 1946. The story of the UK's computer manufacturing industry over the ensuing decades is a sad one, but I'm not convinced government secrecy over WW2 technology had much to do with it. I'm no historian, though, so perhaps you can set me right.

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Post by fmajid »

andrewstuart wrote: post #42
morbia wrote: post #23

This is something that comes up time and time again with our recent string of conservative governments, going back to Cameron. At this point I'm pretty convinced that it is a dead cat strategy to avoid us talking about the lack of fruit and vegetables in the supermarkets. Or maybe I'm just being hopeful.

How do people in UK feel about the food shortages? Do they blame brexit?

Brexit is a symptom of the underlying incompetence of the British political class, not a cause.

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Post by HyperSane »

froddd wrote: post #44
tehf0x wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might want to check up on dev salaries outside of the UK, I found the norm pretty terrible relative to CoL in London...

My understanding of bigger salaries outside the UK is that they are based on longer working hours, with very little focus on quality of life outside work. This may only apply to the US, but in any case I’ll always personally consider off-work time a very precious requirement.

How many hours do you think the average US programmer works?

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by HyperSane »

unxdfa wrote: post #41
tehf0x wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might want to check up on dev salaries outside of the UK, I found the norm pretty terrible relative to CoL in London...

In fintech operations. Salary is very much fine over this side of things. In fact we get paid more than our US counterparts.

"In fact we get paid more than our US counterparts."

That is almost never the case in the UK.

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Post by Agingcoder »

nivenkos wrote: post #49
andrewstuart wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do people in UK feel about the food shortages? Do they blame brexit?

A lot of Europe is suffering shortages the same though, it's just that in the UK the supermarkets refused to pay more. Whereas like here in Sweden you can buy tomatoes, but they now cost $10 per kg.

Well, it's winter now - I'd expect off season fruits and vegetables to be more expensive? Or do you mean that tomatoes are more expensive now than last winter?

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by timeon »

nivenkos wrote: post #49
andrewstuart wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do people in UK feel about the food shortages? Do they blame brexit?

A lot of Europe is suffering shortages the same though, it's just that in the UK the supermarkets refused to pay more. Whereas like here in Sweden you can buy tomatoes, but they now cost $10 per kg.

I still do not get why people buy those sad pale tomatoes in winter.
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