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WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia

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Re: WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia

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Post by myshpa »

ambientqtns wrote: post #12
yabones wrote: post #8

Has person-to-person transmission been proven for H5N1? It's still quite likely they were both infected from the same animal. If they can prove spread between people, that's a big problem... Until then this isn't a risk, other than the major implications for agriculture and food supply.

As far as I've read, they aren't sure about human to human transmission. Roughly a dozen people have had H5N1, but they all plausibly could have gotten it from poultry handling. Which means a) no need to panic, but definitely a good idea to keep an eye on things in case we do observe human human transmission and b) Maybe we need to revisit how we raise animals for food....

> Maybe we need to revisit how we raise animals for food

Maybe the problem isn't how, but how many.

Re: WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia

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Post by smt88 »

bsaul wrote: post #30
timr wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything involving viruses has become a hot-button political issue (at least in the USA). There is a significant faction of people who want to panic at any suggestion of a new pandemic, and refuse to be mollified by any contradictory facts. There is also a significant faction who want to ridicule public health authorities, and refuse to believe that there might be any who are acting in good faith. Anyone in the middl…

The fact that covid happened during the us presidential campaign is probably the second largest reason why the pandemic has been so poorly handled in the world (the first major reason being that it emerged from china and its very problematic regime)

> The fact that covid happened during the us presidential campaign is probably the second largest reason why the pandemic has been so poorly handled in the world

Handling of Covid in other countries seems unrelated. Japan, a very conservative country and close US ally, handled it well, as an example.

Re: WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia

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Post by timr »

bsaul wrote: post #30
timr wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything involving viruses has become a hot-button political issue (at least in the USA). There is a significant faction of people who want to panic at any suggestion of a new pandemic, and refuse to be mollified by any contradictory facts. There is also a significant faction who want to ridicule public health authorities, and refuse to believe that there might be any who are acting in good faith. Anyone in the middl…

The fact that covid happened during the us presidential campaign is probably the second largest reason why the pandemic has been so poorly handled in the world (the first major reason being that it emerged from china and its very problematic regime)

Absolutely agreed. Don't forget that the presidential campaign involved an extremely controversial figure.

Re: WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia

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Post by jcadam »

peyton wrote: post #6
fwungy wrote: post #2

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Corruption at the WHO is legendary. Been the case for at least 30 years.

I'm sure handing them broad new powers via the forthcoming pandemic treaty will encourage them to reform themselves /s

Re: WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia

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Post by [deleted] »

myshpa wrote: post #31
ambientqtns wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I've read, they aren't sure about human to human transmission. Roughly a dozen people have had H5N1, but they all plausibly could have gotten it from poultry handling. Which means a) no need to panic, but definitely a good idea to keep an eye on things in case we do observe human human transmission and b) Maybe we need to revisit how we raise animals for food....

> Maybe we need to revisit how we raise animals for food Maybe the problem isn't how, but how many.

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Re: WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia

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Post by SantalBlush »

kaushikc wrote: post #11

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Every article about some kind of research is met with low-effort "this sucks" comments. "This headline sucks." "This research sucks." "This sample size sucks." The comments are never enlightening, they should probably just be removed unless the poster is willing to elaborate using more than two sentences.

Re: WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia

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Post by legulere »

yabones wrote: post #8

Has person-to-person transmission been proven for H5N1? It's still quite likely they were both infected from the same animal. If they can prove spread between people, that's a big problem... Until then this isn't a risk, other than the major implications for agriculture and food supply.

Family clusters have happened for a long time with H5N1, with human-to-human being likely. For instance a paper that currently goes around from 2007: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2857285/

The issue is that each mammal/human infection gives the virus the possibility to adapt to mammals/humans and/or reassortment with other influenza viruses, like happened with H1N1/09.

Re: WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia

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Post by biorach »

timr wrote: post #27
happytoexplain wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even just probably-unwarranted "worrying" is now "fear-mongering clickbait"? I feel so genuinely sad about the feverish level of shitflinging that so many topics are subject to due merely to their proximity to social politics.

Read the article. The headline is not at all supported by the content, which itself is based on a single-word quote from a WHO spokesperson that leaves a great deal of doubt about the intent of the comment. Literally the first paragraph of the story contradicts the headline: > The discovery of two cases of bird flu within the same family in Cambodia has highlighted the concern over potential human-to-human spread of…

After 2 cases in the same family in Cambodia a director of the WHO says “The global H5N1 situation is worrying given the wide spread of the virus in birds around the world and the increasing reports of cases in mammals including humans,”

The Guardian's headline is "WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia"

This sounds a) reasonable grounds for worry by someone who studies epidemics and b) an accurate headline by the Guardian.

Re: WHO says avian flu cases in humans ‘worrying’ after girl’s death in Cambodia

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Post by fwungy »

smt88 wrote: post #32
fwungy wrote: post #25

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Whether or not people agree with you, this seems to be an unrelated rant about the WHO. How does it apply to this specific topic and article?

The WHO is making the claim.

If Alex Jones was making the claim could I not could consider that?

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