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Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Re: Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Post by swexbe »

rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #201
5555624 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The crazy part is: almost everyone added their numbers voluntarily to the white pages, because you wanted people to be able to easily find and reach you. The default was that your number would be in the phone book, it was not voluntary. If you wanted an unlisted number, you had to pay for it.

This is even crazier. For reference: I'm old enough to remember using landlines and white pages, but not old enough to have ever had a landline at my own address.

You would have to be like <15 to not remember landlines.

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Post by swexbe »

sdrinf wrote: post #248
crazygringo wrote: post #54

I'm curious -- does anyone know of ML directions that could add any kind of factual confidence level to ChatGPT and similar? We all know now that ChatGPT is just autocomplete on steroids. It produces plausibly convincing patterns of speech. But from the way it's built and trained, it's not like there's even any kind of factual confidence level you could threshold, or anything. The concept of factuality doesn't exist…

Add to your prompt: "For every factual statement, assign a certainty float 0..1, where 0 means you're very uncertain, and 1 means you're absolutely certain it is true". Specific example: "why do we have first-person subjective experiences? List current theories. For every theory, assign a truthiness float 0..1, where 0 means you're sure it is wrong, and 1 means you're absolutely sure it is true" From experimenting wi…

Or maybe it will just hallucinate this number too.

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Post by icedchai »

krainboltgreene wrote: post #200
icedchai wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That ship sailed a long time ago. Any major search engine will provide this service. I entered both of my primary phone numbers and my name (and location) was in the first hit.

Sometimes you people are way too online and think the rest of the world is with you there.

In the US, it doesn’t matter if you are online or not. Data brokers are and they are publishing your info.

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Post by kotaKat »

rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #127
rosywoozlechan wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's no "actual phone lookup platform" you can't get a person's location by knowing their phone number, that's a huge privacy violation. You can get the location of your own phone via icloud or google's system for android. You could also install an app on your phone to track your phone's location. You cannot find people based on knowing their phone number, that would be a serious safety issue for you know people t…

Reverse phone number lookup usually refers to finding a residential/business address tied to a phone number (historically a landline phone, but cell phones are also owned by people who have addresses), not the literal GPS location of the phone. I think white pages are still a thing, no? For the young 'uns - the white pages were part of the physical phone book in every city. You got a new phone book delivered to your…

> I think white pages are still a thing, no?

Rural NY; yes. I've gotten a very, VERY thin White/Yellow Pages in the past year. Barely anybody in the White Pages section, a majority of it is Yellow Pages and a majority of that is nearly full-page ads for national services, not local providers.

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Post by onetokeoverthe »

kmoser wrote: post #225
kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

> All suggestions are welcome. Monetize it! Evil answer: Partner with an advertiser and sell https://api.opencagedata.com/geocode/v1/json as an ad space. This may be the first opportunity for an application/json-encoded advertisement. Nice answer: Partner with an actual phone lookup platform and respond with a 301 Moved Permanently at the endpoint.

Obvious suggestion: don't keep writing blog posts that mention your company name and the phrase "phone lookup service," which ChatGPT may get trained on in the future.

So...self censor and correctspeak in order to please the so called art of fish all intel.

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Post by bick_nyers »

impalallama wrote: post #157
hayksaakian wrote: post #11

This marks the new age of "AI Optimization" where companies will strive to get their business featured into answers in ChatGPT. The OP's example is Unwanted demand, but it clearly shows that ChatGPT can funnel potential customers towards a product or service.

God I can just see a company using chatgpt to Astroterf huge amounts of data on the internet about their service to hopefully get that sludge feed back into their system and then become recommended. What a world.

Isn't that just SEO in a nutshell though? Hopefully with more advancements in LLM's we can get more bullshit detection/discrimination against SEO.

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Post by aftbit »

dTal wrote: post #238
afpx wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s no public one. But, data brokers have this info, and share it. Internally, a lot of companies can do this. So, it’s not far-fetched.

Are you saying it's routine for cell phone companies to sell live fine location data to the highest bidder? Can I get a source on that? Horrifying if true, enough to make me switch back to landlines.

I've heard anecdotes about this for a while. Here are a few:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/nepxbz/i-gave-a-bounty-hunte...

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/t-mobile-sprint-...

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/6/18214667/att-t-mobile-spri...

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Post by aftbit »

irrational wrote: post #87
crazygringo wrote: post #54

I'm curious -- does anyone know of ML directions that could add any kind of factual confidence level to ChatGPT and similar? We all know now that ChatGPT is just autocomplete on steroids. It produces plausibly convincing patterns of speech. But from the way it's built and trained, it's not like there's even any kind of factual confidence level you could threshold, or anything. The concept of factuality doesn't exist…

Remember the guy a few weeks ago that was being gaslighted by ChatGPT that this is the year 2022? Not only is it giving out potentially false info, but it will double down that it is right and you are wrong. Though, to be honest, that sounds like a lot of real people. The difference is, people are smart enough to not double down on try to say it is a different year and your phone is probably reporting the year wrong.

I was entirely unable to convince it that England has a King now.

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Post by Tostino »

aftbit wrote: post #258
dTal wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying it's routine for cell phone companies to sell live fine location data to the highest bidder? Can I get a source on that? Horrifying if true, enough to make me switch back to landlines.

I've heard anecdotes about this for a while. Here are a few: https://www.vice.com/en/article/nepxbz/i-gave-a-bounty-hunte... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/t-mobile-sprint-... https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/6/18214667/att-t-mobile-spri...

Here is a Last Week Tonight piece on the topic in addition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqn3gR1WTcA
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