Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption

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Post by walterbell » Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 10:29 AM UTC

Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption
bbc.com

Re: Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption

#2

Post by localplume » Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 10:42 AM UTC

Isn't this situation the entire purpose of Signal..? Don't they already operate in the most authoritarian countries in the world? I don't understand why they would walk.

Re: Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption

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Post by favaq » Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 10:42 AM UTC

Boris Johnson is shaking at the prospect of "signal" leaving the UK. Isn't that a toothpaste?

Re: Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption

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Post by ta1243 » Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 10:49 AM UTC

favaq wrote: post #3

Boris Johnson is shaking at the prospect of "signal" leaving the UK. Isn't that a toothpaste?

Boris Johnson is a backbench MP who rarely turns up for work

Re: Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption

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Post by Lutger » Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 10:50 AM UTC

favaq wrote: post #3

Boris Johnson is shaking at the prospect of "signal" leaving the UK. Isn't that a toothpaste?

He doesn't care about the billions they lose because of Brexit either, or about all the UK expats that now need to leave their cosy retirement homes in Spain and France. Boris cares mostly about Boris.

Some people do care though, and most of those people vote. Anyway, Boris doesn't matter anymore.

Re: Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption

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Post by nprateem » Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 10:56 AM UTC

ta1243 wrote: post #4

favaq wrote: post #3

Boris Johnson is shaking at the prospect of "signal" leaving the UK. Isn't that a toothpaste?

Boris Johnson is a backbench MP who rarely turns up for work

A much politer description than I was thinking of.

Re: Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption

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Post by ben_w » Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 10:56 AM UTC

ta1243 wrote: post #4

favaq wrote: post #3

Boris Johnson is shaking at the prospect of "signal" leaving the UK. Isn't that a toothpaste?

Boris Johnson is a backbench MP who rarely turns up for work

Unfortunately and remarkably — even when combined with "repeatedly lost jobs due to dishonesty" — that hasn't been sufficient for him to be rendered politically irrelevant.

Re: Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption

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Post by hunglee2 » Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 10:57 AM UTC

incredible if UK were to ban Signal, but I guess national sovereignty and security are always going to be higher priorities for the state than user sentiment

Re: Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption

#9

Post by notpushkin » Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 10:57 AM UTC

TIL Element (the Matrix.org client) is based in UK.

This is extremely worrying.

Re: Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption

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Post by notpushkin » Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 11:00 AM UTC

localplume wrote: post #2

Isn't this situation the entire purpose of Signal..? Don't they already operate in the most authoritarian countries in the world? I don't understand why they would walk.

This.

I believe the problem is, UK is extremely powerful in terms of asking “please ban this and that app from app stores”, so they can effectively block it (unlike say Russia, which tried to block Telegram and failed spectacularly).