I wonder when the distros are going to start auto-converting their native package formats to Flatpak so you can use distro Flatpaks alongside Flathub ones.
KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop
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Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop
#292maybe it's indeed time to let the system package management(apt,rpm,etc) just manage a solid BASE system, and let Flatpak etc to manage their own application sandboxes on top, kind of like dockers. Appimage is macos flavor, it never needs your sudo to install the package, which is nice. Flatpak is a redhat flavor(kind of), it needs sudo sometimes, but OK. Snap is a ubuntu flavor(kind of), it is like systemd that can…
Like *BSD, with base + ports.
Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop
#293> As we also open the ability for applications to be uploaded in binary form, which is essential for low-friction compatibility with popular language-specific build systems such as Electron/Node, Rust, Go, etc - we also reduce the ability for users to scrutinise the source in the Flathub build system that was used to build their application. ...and their solution is running an antivirus scanner rather than stepping b…
Is NixOS a cult? Every time someone posts about Linux packaging, there's a "you should just use NixOS" comment. Although it provides its own solution to the Linux packaging problem, it's a single solution that comes with a whole load of baggage with it. It is not the panacea its proponents wants us to believe it is.
Every distro has its cult(s).
I think NixOS tends to be mentioned more often than others because it provides a lot of clean solutions to common problems. Especially when some people claim these common problems are unsolvable, but NixOS does offer some sort of solution (that of course comes with it's own set of tradeoffs, every solution does).
If someone says "It's impossible to run a popular website with client-side analytics" and you frequently hang out on popular websites without client-side analytics, wouldn't you share those examples to show that the person might not know about those and could further their understanding?
Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop
#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't personally remove snaps but if I did I'd still use Ubuntu for the sole reason that it is somehow the only distro that gets fonts right. I don't know what it is but on every other linux distribution font rendering looks horrible, and I could never figure out how to reliably fix it.
It’s most likely not the rendering but the font itself. The Ubuntu font might be the best looking one around. It can be installed on other distros easily. Some have it packaged in their repositories. Switch fonts, turn on full hinting and you’re in business.
I don't think it's just one font. I recently switched away from Ubuntu to OpenSUSE TumbleWeed and on occasional webpages and applications I get these badly rendered fonts. I fixed them to some extent by installing additional fonts, but not completely.
Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop
#295> As we also open the ability for applications to be uploaded in binary form, which is essential for low-friction compatibility with popular language-specific build systems such as Electron/Node, Rust, Go, etc - we also reduce the ability for users to scrutinise the source in the Flathub build system that was used to build their application. ...and their solution is running an antivirus scanner rather than stepping b…
Is NixOS a cult? Every time someone posts about Linux packaging, there's a "you should just use NixOS" comment. Although it provides its own solution to the Linux packaging problem, it's a single solution that comes with a whole load of baggage with it. It is not the panacea its proponents wants us to believe it is.
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Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop
#296I used to think Flatpaks were a huge pain the butt, but over the last few years, I moved to using them for all third party software that I run on my Fedora Linux workstation. Zoom, Slack, Spotify, Steam, Discord, Obsidian all run without issues and they get consistent updates. I am convinced now that they are one of the best ways to ship commercial software on to Linux desktop. Flatpak has been a key part of me becom…
So these integrate well now? I normally just use AUR for everything now, and remember having issues with a flatpak for rpcs3 a few years ago, ended up compiling from src
Yes, actually flatpak triggered some interesting projects that are going beyong flatpak now:
- pipewire for audio/video stream management that allows sandboxing
- xdg-desktop portals to integrate the sandboxed apps in the host desktop environment and operating system. It's what allows the host DE ui to grant permissions (like reading/writing a file, accessing screen share, etc...)
It will depend how an app has been packaged, but when well done the sandboxing is invisible.
Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop
#297Flatpak is a solution to package management as Docker is to servers. What's the predominant reason people use Docker? Because it's impossible to get a Python/NodeJS monstrosity working properly without it. On rolling release distributions, you don't ever need Flatpak. Its predominance is found in stable release distributions like Ubuntu and Fedora. Because they stall packages and their dependencies, it'll always be an issue to install new software. If anything, I prefer AppImage a lot more.
Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop
#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah a bunch of clowns funded by private companies used their salaries to boost their egos to develop stupid anti-user centric desktop software starting after gnome 3 launched. Remove all options, treat everyone like an iPad baby and try to leverage the existing desktop to do a radical paradigm shift, when all people wanted was GNOME2+. This is actually different than KDE3->KDE4 transition, which while it was a total…
GNOME2+ is still around, that's what Mate is. GNOME 3 and later releases has great support for convergence, which is incredibly popular among users - while also being very easy to use via the keyboard, for a more traditional workflow. Ubuntu's Unity interface was built with similar goals, so this is quite far from a pure GNOME thing.
>convergence, which is incredibly popular among users
I'm gonna say citation needed on that one. In fact, I have seen many rants about desktop software trying to look like touchscreen software.
Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop
#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
But you will still be subjected to Debian crazy rules regarding applied patch sets. Nowadays you can get a full featured, well integrated and properly working user land on Linux with next to zero customisation with systemd and Gnome. I really recommend using a distribution which stays as close to vanilla as possible.
Sure, if you find Gnome to your tastes. I can (just barely) live with systemd, but I am very allergic to Gnome.
It's the same with any DE nowadays. Switch Gnome by KDE or any other. The base system is uniform enough that things just fit together.
Debian would still patch far too much to my taste without the integration anyway.
They remove/rebrand what they don't find free enough, want to make things "modular", want to split development and base packages, want to support a ton of architectures upstream doesn't care about and want to integrate things in their historic tooling. It has introduced some severe bugs in the past.
Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop
#300Why do we need this bullshit when we have apt, rpm, pacman and everything?