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Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Don't worry, it will be approved for the latter soon enough, perhaps under a different brand. No way to put this genie back in the bottle, sorry.

Yes, this is what Novo Nordisk did with Victoza around 2014 with the release of Saxenda. And then again with Ozempic around 2021 with Wegovy. These weight loss versions exist. And there will be one likely this year based on tirzepatide from Lilly (I haven't looked up if they have a name for it yet).

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Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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"Diabetes patients think people with obesity are stealing their drug, as it’s currently only approved for the treatment of T2D (though FDA approval for the treatment of obesity may come as soon as this summer.) People with obesity are angry that obesity isn’t recognized as a disease. And users who can’t afford it say they’ve been abandoned by Big Pharma." Always amazing when an article is verified in real time

With very few exceptions obesity is simply the result of eating more calories than needed for a long time. Very obese people eat a LOT of food. 10,000 calories/day for years is not uncommon.

Thermodynamics obviously holds, but I'm unsure what you implication is. If it is that the obese should simply eat less, that doesn't seem terribly useful though it is completely true.

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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> Mounjaro is not an obesity drug. It's a type 2 diabetes drug. Do not call it an obesity drug This is an absurd argument. It's a drug. It has specific metabolic affects in humans that are valuable to people's health, among which are the control of blood glucose levels, and control of appetite and nutrient uptake, leading to loss of excess weight. That it is currently labeled only for Type 2 diabetes is a marketing d…

> That it is currently labeled only for Type 2 diabetes is a marketing decision by the manufacturer, not a characteristic of the drug. Regulatory approval. It is a diabetes drug because it has been evaluated as such, including understanding the primary effects and side effects at various dosing levels. Mounjaro is prescribed to diabetics from 2.5mg to 15mg in increments of 2.5mg and titrated based on needs and goals.…

Coupon terms changed because drug makers can't promote this? Can you help me understand why the ability to promote would have any bearing on a coupon's terms?

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Mounjaro is not an obesity drug. It's a type 2 diabetes drug. Do not call it an obesity drug. The headline is editorialized. The linked article's headline: The ‘next Ozempic’ became a social media sensation. Then everything changed The coupon didn't go away. The coupon's terms changed. I'm using the coupon now. Because I have type 2 diabetes. The coupon changed because people were using it to get the drug for off-lab…

>Mounjaro is not an obesity drug. It's a type 2 diabetes drug. Do not call it an obesity drug.

Mounjaro is a drug that causes weight loss. Is that better?

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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"Diabetes patients think people with obesity are stealing their drug, as it’s currently only approved for the treatment of T2D (though FDA approval for the treatment of obesity may come as soon as this summer.) People with obesity are angry that obesity isn’t recognized as a disease. And users who can’t afford it say they’ve been abandoned by Big Pharma." Always amazing when an article is verified in real time

With very few exceptions obesity is simply the result of eating more calories than needed for a long time. Very obese people eat a LOT of food. 10,000 calories/day for years is not uncommon.

A friend that is a doctor specialized in metabolic problems told me that around 5% of the cases of obesity have some medical cause, not eating too much. 5% is low, but it is a lot more than "very few exceptions". (Disclaimer: the number is for Europe, I have no idea what is in US)

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Tragic to observe the typical Dallas Buyers Club dynamic at play. People are coordinating online and locally and doing border runs for the Mexico-available GLP-1 predecessors. The Mounjaro patent appears to be until '39, with no generics available at the moment. As one of the patients states in the article, obesity may very well lead them to diabetes. People will die. And with the shortage affecting current diabetics…

When the demand is enough, some overseas companies will start producing it without permission. Russia has announced that it will not honor patents from "unfriendly" countries, so they might as well start making these drugs in large amounts to make up for their declining gas revenues.

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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With very few exceptions obesity is simply the result of eating more calories than needed for a long time. Very obese people eat a LOT of food. 10,000 calories/day for years is not uncommon.

Thermodynamics obviously holds, but I'm unsure what you implication is. If it is that the obese should simply eat less, that doesn't seem terribly useful though it is completely true.

The implication is that obesity is not a disease, it is actually the human body working as intended by storing the excess energy as fat for future use.

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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With very few exceptions obesity is simply the result of eating more calories than needed for a long time. Very obese people eat a LOT of food. 10,000 calories/day for years is not uncommon.

A friend that is a doctor specialized in metabolic problems told me that around 5% of the cases of obesity have some medical cause, not eating too much. 5% is low, but it is a lot more than "very few exceptions". (Disclaimer: the number is for Europe, I have no idea what is in US)

All obesity is fundamentally caused by eating too much because fat contains energy that HAS to come from food.

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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"Diabetes patients think people with obesity are stealing their drug, as it’s currently only approved for the treatment of T2D (though FDA approval for the treatment of obesity may come as soon as this summer.) People with obesity are angry that obesity isn’t recognized as a disease. And users who can’t afford it say they’ve been abandoned by Big Pharma." Always amazing when an article is verified in real time

With very few exceptions obesity is simply the result of eating more calories than needed for a long time. Very obese people eat a LOT of food. 10,000 calories/day for years is not uncommon.

Do you think depression is a disease? I would argue obesity is certainly a symptom of depression in some people.

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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"Diabetes patients think people with obesity are stealing their drug, as it’s currently only approved for the treatment of T2D (though FDA approval for the treatment of obesity may come as soon as this summer.) People with obesity are angry that obesity isn’t recognized as a disease. And users who can’t afford it say they’ve been abandoned by Big Pharma." Always amazing when an article is verified in real time

With very few exceptions obesity is simply the result of eating more calories than needed for a long time. Very obese people eat a LOT of food. 10,000 calories/day for years is not uncommon.

Great. Now answer why they eat that much.
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