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What a missed opportunity in calling it Django Unchained
Why?
djngo.com is the culmination of years of effort, creating a single file python executable that runs on all platforms. This project is based on APE ( https://justine.lol/ape.html ) and in the past few days, our Python APE port (called python.com) became good enough to run Django. So we put Django inside the executable too, and called it djngo.com. The djngo.com executable will just work on the following platforms: - A…
Making Django work on Py3.11 involved the following steps (see commit history for https://github.com/ahgamut/cpython/tree/cosmo_djngo):
- add django + deps to the Lib/ folder - add sqlite3 and zlib to the build system - run quick tests and small examples to check the build works
I expect there's a bunch of packages like django which can be ported similarly. If anyone's interested, this is a fun area to explore.
Why?
Are people still using Django?
If not django, what on python? Anything else besides flask?
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Flask FTW.
If you like Flask (I do too), you can do what we used to do before Flask existed (./djngo.com -p project runserver) where .python/project.py in the zip is: import os from django.conf import settings from django.core import management from django.conf.urls import url from django.http import HttpResponse # Django 2.2 Release Notes # https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.1/releases/2.2/ # Documentation # https://docs.djan…
With that being said, I hadn't thought much about "before Flask". I very well might feel differently if I had been coding then.
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djngo.com is the culmination of years of effort, creating a single file python executable that runs on all platforms. This project is based on APE ( https://justine.lol/ape.html ) and in the past few days, our Python APE port (called python.com) became good enough to run Django. So we put Django inside the executable too, and called it djngo.com. The djngo.com executable will just work on the following platforms: - A…
Why Django 2.2? That version is no longer supported, and I'm guessing there's some technical reason you are using the obsolete version? (Production Django is now on major version 4)
Python 3.11.0rc1, Django 4.1.7. I think ingenieroariel also has a binary available on the website.
It's a proof-of-concept (because I wrote it just a few hours back), but it shows that we could have the latest version of Python+Django packaged in a single-file executable. Someone could definitely improve upon the build process (like it was done for Python3.6) and add more packages if they wanted.
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I've seen this opinion on HN for years, but still don't _really_ understand it. Our cofounder built what is now a $1B+ SaSS company from some cursory SQL knowledge he gained while interning at a hospital in the early 2010's. The entire business is, in essence, a fancy graphical UI around postgres. I've now been writing django at work for five years and still have yet to come across a query builder/orm which is as pow…
This is a double-edged sword in my opinion. The Django ORM is among my favourite ORMs, but the abstraction (like any) can cause problems over time. At scale, poorly understood ORM-generated queries can be a real pain, especially if your team's SQL skills have atrophied due to over-reliance on the ORM. As an exercise, I'd possibly recommend reviewing your top 1-3 worst performing queries, tracking them back to the ORM…
People often overestimate how often the average website needs to worry about scale.
And how easy it is to fix the times you come close.
Are people still using Django?
A lot. And it baffles me why hasn't anyone realized that Kenneth Reitz was right about django over a decade ago and all his points are equally valid today. https://speakerdeck.com/kennethreitz/flasky-goodness
What a missed opportunity in calling it Django Unchained
References to slavery in America, even references to movies of freed slaves struggling to free others are generally unwelcome. It’s not something most people want to be faced with when they just came for a simple technical discussion.