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Re: Night Train Map with all regularly served night train destinations in Europe

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Post by Gud »

chrisandchris wrote: post #59
woile wrote: post #49

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Maybe it's not convenient for a whole family but more for solo travelers. A car with one traveller is an absolute waste. And instead is more convenient to travel by train

It's not a waste in all ways. A car gets you where you want at the time you want. Whereas a train gets you close to where you want to go at some time. So better depends on what's more important to you. If you take a look at ecology, sure, trains are far better than a 1 person in a car. If you look at flexibility, cars are far more better.

You can also rent a car at your destination, or take cab

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Post by Arrath »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #105
Arrath wrote: post #102

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No it was a more traditional sleeper car ala From Russia With Love. Private cabins of 2-4 bunks per.

If it was 4 bunks (two upper, two lower) then it was a "kupe" (2nd class). If it had 2 bunks (lower only), then it's SV (1st class). Though these days they may have other combinations.

Kupe it was. That was expensive enough, I don't even what to know what SV cost.

Re: Night Train Map with all regularly served night train destinations in Europe

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Post by Symbiote »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #83
Symbiote wrote: post #78

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I think expecting first class rail travel during a major war is probably the most entitled attitude I've ever seen on HN.

Have you visited Ukraine? Have you travelled by train in Ukraine? The first class carriages are still in use between Odessa and Kyiv or Odessa and Lviv, just not on the train between Odessa and Przemysl. I can't work out why.

I couldn't care less about first class train service in Ukraine. Anyone who does care has the wrong priories.

(I've been, but it was a brief visit a long time ago.)

Re: Night Train Map with all regularly served night train destinations in Europe

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Post by angrais »

arethuza wrote: post #8

What is probably my favourite hotel/restaurant which is 15km up a single track road from the nearest village on the edge of the Moor of Rannoch is right next to where the wonderfully named Deerstalker train has a stop - so even though there are like 3 buildings in the middle of nowhere they have a direct train service from London: https://www.seat61.com/deerstalker.htm https://www.moorofrannoch.co.uk/

I suppose since there's only three buildings they can choose to charge whatever they want. I had a look on the hotels website and it was £700 per night. While I'm sure it's lovely, a room for the night is certainly not affordable for most of the UK population.

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Post by reustle »

smhg wrote: post #92
ggambetta wrote: post #53

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Hmmm, interesting. Google Maps shows the 21:59 with a connection in Frankfurt, but the Nightjet website shows no change.

I've used Trainline [0] twice for cross-border train travel because it fits in-between those 2 options (Google Maps vs Nightjet). [0] https://www.thetrainline.com/

https://rome2rio.com is also helpful when searching for trains

Re: Night Train Map with all regularly served night train destinations in Europe

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Post by bogomipz »

twic wrote: post #79
woile wrote: post #49

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Maybe it's not convenient for a whole family but more for solo travelers. A car with one traveller is an absolute waste. And instead is more convenient to travel by train

I went from London to Barcelona and back by train. On the way down, a sleeper from Paris to somewhere like Perpignan, then a morning express from Perpignan to Barcelona, and on the way back, daytime TGV from Barcelona to Paris. The return leg was far better. Getting the sleeper train means hanging around in some dingy third-rate terminal waiting for it to leave. I didn't really sleep on the train, because even though…

I'm curious what was the price for London to Barcelona and what was time on the TGV return leg?

Re: Night Train Map with all regularly served night train destinations in Europe

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Post by joeman1000 »

I just spent two weeks going across Europe by many modes of transport.

- Australia to Amsterdam by plane (of course)

- Amsterdam to Berlin by train (first class cabin, ~6h)

- Berlin to Krakow by plane (Ryanair, at airport 2h before flight via train, plane ride is 1h)

- Krakow to Vienna by plane (roughly the same deal as the previous flight)

- Vienna to Verona by ÖBB sleeper train (11h or so)

- Verona to Breschia by train

- Breschia to Milan by bus

- Milan to Australia (3h buffer before flight, 20h flying total with 3h stopover in Doha)

- More transport to get home from the airport after that.. a bus, a train and another bus.

A hell of a lot of transport. I was glad to have it all over and done with. Plane trips were quicker and cheaper normally. I would only travel by train if I there’s a sleeper cabin available and you can book it so it’s private. Otherwise you’ll be travelling and sleeping near other people. If I could, I would probably just take planes everywhere. The night train to Verona was OK, but it’s still cramped and uncomfortable depending on the cabin you book. And it’s pricey depending on when you book. It’s fun to experiment but planes were a bit better, at least on this trip.

Re: Night Train Map with all regularly served night train destinations in Europe

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

Symbiote wrote: post #113
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you visited Ukraine? Have you travelled by train in Ukraine? The first class carriages are still in use between Odessa and Kyiv or Odessa and Lviv, just not on the train between Odessa and Przemysl. I can't work out why.

I couldn't care less about first class train service in Ukraine. Anyone who does care has the wrong priories. (I've been, but it was a brief visit a long time ago.)

I live in Ukraine and I’ve had to shelter from the missiles. I’ve seen and heard them. And the attack drones. The sirens. The explosions.

Who the hell are you to tell me where my priorities should lie?

Re: Night Train Map with all regularly served night train destinations in Europe

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Post by frosted-flakes »

throwaway29495 wrote: post #107
petschge wrote: post #37

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Things could certainly be better, but it is a but disingenuous to give the pure flight time of 1:15, when we all know that flying has quite a bit of time requirements on both ends. Not enough to bring it to 15.5 hours, but still easily enough to triple the trip time.

That doesn't match my experience. Flights within the EU - especially if I travel with a carry-on only - are quick and frictionless. I arrive at the airport 30 minutes before departure. I check in using a mobile app. Automatized gate with facial recognition tech takes my ID and boarding pass QR code - there are so many gates there's never a queue. The worst part of the ordeal - the security check of baggage - takes 5-…

Don't forget that trains take you right to the city centre, but airports are outside of the city.

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Post by asow92 »

IIAOPSW wrote: post #110
asow92 wrote: post #32

Here we are wishing that we had daytime trains half as good in the US. Yes it's fine if you live near the northeast corridor, but what about the rest of us out here in "flyover country"?

Amtrak runs a whole 3 cross country services. Empire Builder (parallel Canada to Oregon), California Zephyr (Chicago to SF straightish line), Southeast Chief (LA through the Southern border states). These trains run through some of the most sparsely populated low demand regions to exist. Every state in the lower 48 except for Wyoming has at least one service passing through it. There's only so much Amtrak can do. At…

Let’s put it this way: I live in a small upstate NY city with roughly 100k people in its metropolitan area, but am still two hours driving distance from the closest Amtrak station. How much bigger should we get before we should expect a station in a state that’s better than most for rail service? We once had rail service here via the Erie Lackawanna Phoebe Snow, and those tracks were demolished decades ago.
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