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Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood.

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Re: Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood.

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post #14

I know this is completely off-topic, but pg: reading that football analogy from an American makes me love you. On topic, is there not space for (if there was enough funding put into it) a new studio, one that understands the internet and modern culture? I'm not sure it's the content that's wrong, it's the business models around it.

You realize pg was born in England to welsh parents right (although he grew up in the US) ?

Re: Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood.

#32

Here is an idea for the taking: bypass big-studio production, theaters, cable & physical media sales/rental, and go direct to streaming video rentals, e.g. to Amazon or Netflix, or set up your own streaming infrastructure. This business model is disruptive by capping allowed production budgets and greatly reducing distribution expenses. Produce content digitally. Have subscribers pay a recurring fee to genre-oriented…

There are not enough players in the streaming industry to negotiate. If you lose one you will not be able to make enough money from the other 2. They know this and will be able to low ball you. They also pay a flat fee up front based on how much demand you can prove for your product. Small studios cannot prove demand very well.

You would be better off going straight to the physical distributors like RedBox and selling the rights to Netflix once you can show some demand for the product.

Or, you could set up your own streaming site that lets users view the pilot for free. If they like it that can preorder the first season. With enough demand you can afford to sign that show.

Re: Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood.

#33
This battle will be long and tedious gentlemen with setbacks for both sides... but I can see it slowing degrading for Hollywood and you can bet new legislations will make sure they will remain with considerable power for decades after their market lost all appeal and logic sense of existence in a digital world.

Re: Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood.

#34
post #17

I hope whatever kills hollywood also kills distribution by regions. In the third world we are people too.

It's obvious that many new forms of entertainment will use the web as a medium which, barring dictatorships, is worldwide, so you don't have to worry about it, insofar as you have enough bandwidth.

Many new-ish forms of entertainment already use the web as a medium, but that has not helped the region problem much. Hulu, Netflix, Turntable.fm and many many other services are US-only.

Re: Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood.

#35
Here is what Francis Ford Coppola has to say on the matter:

http://the99percent.com/articles/6973/Francis-Ford-Coppola-O...

"We have to be very clever about those things. You have to remember that it’s only a few hundred years, if that much, that artists are working with money. Artists never got money. Artists had a patron, either the leader of the state or the duke of Weimar or somewhere, or the church, the pope. Or they had another job. I have another job. I make films. No one tells me what to do. But I make the money in the wine industry. You work another job and get up at five in the morning and write your script.

This idea of Metallica or some rock n’ roll singer being rich, that’s not necessarily going to happen anymore. Because, as we enter into a new age, maybe art will be free. Maybe the students are right. They should be able to download music and movies. I’m going to be shot for saying this. But who said art has to cost money? And therefore, who says artists have to make money?

In the old days, 200 years ago, if you were a composer, the only way you could make money was to travel with the orchestra and be the conductor, because then you’d be paid as a musician. There was no recording. There were no record royalties. So I would say, “Try to disconnect the idea of cinema with the idea of making a living and money.” Because there are ways around it."

Re: Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood.

#36

I hope whatever kills hollywood also kills distribution by regions. In the third world we are people too.

Don't hold your breath just yet. If the new thing gets funded chiefly by ad revenue -- and that's the popular way of funding freemium now -- it will remain regionalized. Ad sponsors prefer certain demographics and third world countries aren't high on their lists.

Re: Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood.

#38

Here is an idea for the taking: bypass big-studio production, theaters, cable & physical media sales/rental, and go direct to streaming video rentals, e.g. to Amazon or Netflix, or set up your own streaming infrastructure. This business model is disruptive by capping allowed production budgets and greatly reducing distribution expenses. Produce content digitally. Have subscribers pay a recurring fee to genre-oriented…

This has already been done in the adult industry. You have sites like aebn, clips4sale, etc which allow people to independently product and sell their content. However, piracy is still an issue...and the fact that people don't want to pay for this content as much anymore.

As pg stated the goal, while easier said than done, is coming up with a model that is more entertaining than what's currently out there that people don't mind spending money on.

Re: Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood.

#39
post #9

Incidentally, Paul Buchheit deserves all the credit for this idea. The YC partners were having lunch yesterday and he suggested posting this RFS. Whereupon we all turned to Jessica, who is usually the one who talks us out of doing crazy things. I was kind of surprised she didn't try to talk us out of it.

It may easily be the most straightforward RFS you have ever put forward -- at least in hindsight.

It wasn't until I read that that I realised how obvious it is that Hollywood is going down the drains.

Re: Request for Startups: Kill Hollywood.

#40
post #23

What's all this about 'predetermined' ?

That was exactly what I was going to ask. PG, would you mind explaining the predetermined wording? It seems counter intuitive for someone who funds disruptive companies to say so I have a sense that there is more to it.
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