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Re: Show HN: IngestAI – NoCode ChatGPT-bot creator from your knowledge base in Slack

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Post by naillo »

Vasyl_R wrote: post #60
naillo wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every app using GPT will go through OpenAIs API and all that data is stored and used for training future models. No amount of good will or non nefarious intentions from IngestAI side makes any difference.

thanks for your comment and support. That's what I'm trying basically to say in every third comment here. Generally, data privacy is a buzz topic since some time and with OpenAI it became even more viral.. It's not about IngestAI or any other SaaS, it's much wider topic and totally agree (thanks!).

To be clear I'm saying that you claiming that data won't leak into 3rd parties by storing it in aws is deceptive. There's no way you can protect the user of your product from having their data being soaked up by openai as long as you use their service instead of an open source LLM.

Re: Show HN: IngestAI – NoCode ChatGPT-bot creator from your knowledge base in Slack

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Post by guluarte »

Vasyl_R wrote: post #96
guluarte wrote: post #95

this is awesome, my son is using this with a bot in discord to learn python

wow. that's amazing! Do you means he's using our tool or something similar?

your tool, I created a library using a python tutorial and connected it to a discord bot :)

Re: Show HN: IngestAI – NoCode ChatGPT-bot creator from your knowledge base in Slack

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Post by bluejay2387 »

alnorth wrote: post #17
wokwokwok wrote: post #11

Privacy policy: > We will not use or share your information with anyone except as described in this Privacy Policy. ... > We want to inform our Service users that these third parties have access to your Personal Information. The reason is to perform the tasks assigned to them on our behalf. However, they are obligated not to disclose or use the information for any other purpose. Arreeee they? So let me get this strai…

So if my competitor is using IngestAI and OpenAI use their data to train ChatGPT, could I literally just ask ChatGPT to tell me some secrets from my competitor's internal communication?

This is a well known problem with this technology (although I haven't seen an official term for it, so we have been calling them "recovery attacks'). It's apparently the reason companies like Amazon have banned internal use of services like ChatGPT. I should add while it has been proven to occur the likelihood of something like this is very low. It's going to be a rare occurrence.

Re: Show HN: IngestAI – NoCode ChatGPT-bot creator from your knowledge base in Slack

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Post by Vasyl_R »

bluejay2387 wrote: post #104
alnorth wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if my competitor is using IngestAI and OpenAI use their data to train ChatGPT, could I literally just ask ChatGPT to tell me some secrets from my competitor's internal communication?

This is a well known problem with this technology (although I haven't seen an official term for it, so we have been calling them "recovery attacks'). It's apparently the reason companies like Amazon have banned internal use of services like ChatGPT. I should add while it has been proven to occur the likelihood of something like this is very low. It's going to be a rare occurrence.

thanks for sharing. Do you think if all would be on the client's local server or cloud there would be still some, even rare, occurrence of that?

Re: Show HN: IngestAI – NoCode ChatGPT-bot creator from your knowledge base in Slack

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Post by Avshalom »

rd wrote: post #87
Avshalom wrote: post #39

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I mean that I suspect I am replying to an underwhelming demo.

This seems vaguely xenophobic because the OP clearly doesn’t have perfect English but it’s also funny.

I dunno, I feel pretty comfortable

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34912932

Re: Show HN: IngestAI – NoCode ChatGPT-bot creator from your knowledge base in Slack

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Post by flangola7 »

osigurdson wrote: post #27
literalAardvark wrote: post #23

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2023 is going to be very exciting times for security engineers. It won't have the data, but it might have enough of an understanding of the data to leak important information.

Does this problem disappear when using the Azure version of the service? If not, this is a pretty obvious market need: LLM + privacy.

Most AI companies won't want to offer that. They want to know if someone is using their service to instigate the next mass shooting or ethic genocide.

Re: Show HN: IngestAI – NoCode ChatGPT-bot creator from your knowledge base in Slack

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Post by Vasyl_R »

flangola7 wrote: post #107
osigurdson wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this problem disappear when using the Azure version of the service? If not, this is a pretty obvious market need: LLM + privacy.

Most AI companies won't want to offer that. They want to know if someone is using their service to instigate the next mass shooting or ethic genocide.

a good point. And what about companies that have on-premise storage?

Re: Show HN: IngestAI – NoCode ChatGPT-bot creator from your knowledge base in Slack

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Post by Vasyl_R »

JustBreath wrote: post #74
therusskiy wrote: post #41

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Would be cool to know some technical details, like are you fine-tuning GPT-3 on Open AI or built something yourself on top of an open source pretrained model?

Anyone care to recommend some open source options? I've read about GPT-J, GPT-NEO, Bloom. Understanding they aren't as effective/intuitive as Open AI's stuff but unlike OpenAI, they are actually open.

That is a good point that you have brought up.

We plan to be agnostic of underlying LLMs as ecosystem matures.

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