Night Train Map with all regularly served night train destinations in Europe
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#42I'm looking forward to the new Brussel–Amsterdam–Berlin sleeper line. Not sure if I'll manage to book something this year (the site was overloaded when it opened this week), but still cool.
That one seems a bit weird to me though, that doesn't sound like the kind of distance that requires an overnight stay.
The service is planned to eventually continue to Dresden and Prague by the way, further increasing its usefulness.
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#43This seems to be a great resource! However, when I looked at prices, seats are quite expensive. Does anyone have any advice for finding cheaper train tickets?
What I did:
- got a DB Bahncard 25 (25% reduction on all prices)
- use the DB site or app to find the lowest-cost connections (enable "Show our best prices", only works 2 days in advance or later)
- select the lowest-price connection which has a bearable number of changes and waiting periods, for me this ends up between 6 and 10 changes for the trip from Sweden to the Netherlands which I make quite often. The price tends to end up about half of what it would cost to fly, sometimes a bit more, sometimes even less. I sometimes travel first class when the price difference between first and second is less than ~20%.
- as soon as there is a delay or reschedule - which seems to be "nearly always" - I reschedule to a route with fewer changes which normally would be sold for 3 or 4 times the price I paid. I then get reservations on the new route (easily done online, not always available though).
I just returned from a trip to the Netherlands where my original 10-change route ended up being a 4-change route including the NightJet to Bonn, ICE from Bonn to Hamburg through the night (train nearly empty so I could stretch out between the seats), Hamburg to Copenhagen followed by Copenhagen to Gothenburg. This is a long trip, about 22 hours. Travelling by car it would take around 16 hours but then I'd (a) have to have a car (which I don't) and (b) would have to drive while I can sit and walk and talk and work and rest in the train. Compared to a flight the train takes much longer (including travel to and from airports) but it is cheaper and I can take much more luggage and have much more freedom since I'm not treated as cattle to be herded. When I have the time I take a train, when not I either wait until I have the time - i.e. I change my plans - or I take a plane.
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#44Why ? : - All sleeper trains are scattered with so many booking Apps or internet service. A real pain.
Thanks for this wonderful MAP!
Ps: If traveling in Europe, I recommend booking really in advance as most sleeping wagons are usually all booked 2 months before departure. ( In one trains only 2 cars are sleepers).
Also do not even think of jumping into a night train with no reservation : you will be kicked out immediately. Security is king.
PPS : After 20 years of scaling back, sleeping trains are making a slow come-back. Hence, new trains lines should arrive during the next 3 years .
PPS: I work for SNCF ( french rail) so you can trust my words
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#45There is a clear lack of connection toward France and Spain. EDIT: Paris is of course well connected, but southern France and Spain are not. I live in Zurich and it's quite easy to go north, south, and east by train, but going south-west towards Marseille, Toulouse, Barcelona is really inconvenient. And it's not just about Zurich, because doing so from Milan or Frankfurt, I would guess, is the same. However I heard o…
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#46What should have been 6-7 hour car drive was ~12 hour train ride. Sleep was not great, getting to and out of train stations, herding two small kids etc so at the time we've reached our destination we were pretty tired. Much more tired if we just drove.
The route back is where things went south. One of the beds in our cabin fell apart. Then there was some sort of the outage en route back so the train had to skip our station and we landed almost 150km away from our home.
Train company was trying to get us on the bus or train to get us back home but there were no free seats so it looked like we were to spend a night there. In the we've decided to take cab back home. We should have been back home ~10 in the morning. When we got home it was close to 6pm.
On top of that bathrooms were super dirty and there was no running water in the sinks.
We've paid ~700 euros for both ways and additional ~150 euros for the cab. If we just drove the whole round-trip would have cost us under 100 euros including lunch on our way there and back.
I just don't see this as an alternative to driving or flying in Europe — they are too expensive and the level of comfort they offer for the price is just horrible. Even if everything went according to the plan and our route back was without any hiccups driving would have been much more convenient.
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#47Sleeper trains sound fun, but I found it tricky to sleep on. I don't think I can sleep in a bed which suddenly moves back and forth. Anyway here's the cool video I took of our JR sleeper (Aomori City to Sapporo if I remember correctly, through the Seikan Tunnel the world's deepest tunnel at the time): http://oirase.annexia.org/tmp/VID_20110215_213825.3gp (No idea what a 3GP file is, but it plays in my browser.)
I've only ever taken one soft sleeper before, and it was fine. Hard sleepers are OK for me as well (e.g. from Shanghai to Urumuqi), but I was younger back then.
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#48Sleeper trains sound fun, but I found it tricky to sleep on. I don't think I can sleep in a bed which suddenly moves back and forth. Anyway here's the cool video I took of our JR sleeper (Aomori City to Sapporo if I remember correctly, through the Seikan Tunnel the world's deepest tunnel at the time): http://oirase.annexia.org/tmp/VID_20110215_213825.3gp (No idea what a 3GP file is, but it plays in my browser.)
The trick is to be very tired. Then it feels like teleportation.
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#49Those sound good on paper but then reality hits you. Last summer we as a family decided to take a night train to reach our vacation destination. What should have been 6-7 hour car drive was ~12 hour train ride. Sleep was not great, getting to and out of train stations, herding two small kids etc so at the time we've reached our destination we were pretty tired. Much more tired if we just drove. The route back is wher…
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Very cool, didn't even realize the UK had such large mountains/ranges.
Well, the mountains aren't very high but they can be quite challenging and rather pretty: e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opAWJnD0Jro Also for more details: https://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/ Also, for the mountain bikers out there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_IQS3VKjA
Yes and no. For example Aonach Beag is 4049 ft above sea level. But it basically begins at sea level. By contrast Mt Cowen, one of the highest local peaks near me here in Montana is 11212ft above sea level, but the bottom of it is roughly 5000ft so not that much higher in terms of actual mountain to climb.