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Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Post by HDThoreaun »

bedast wrote: post #36

Mounjaro is not an obesity drug. It's a type 2 diabetes drug. Do not call it an obesity drug. The headline is editorialized. The linked article's headline: The ‘next Ozempic’ became a social media sensation. Then everything changed The coupon didn't go away. The coupon's terms changed. I'm using the coupon now. Because I have type 2 diabetes. The coupon changed because people were using it to get the drug for off-lab…

People aren’t stupid. Mounjaro is the most effective weight loss drug in existence. Better than wegovy and the other brand name semaglutides. If you think FDA approval is going to stop people from wanting and getting it you’re sorely mistaken.

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Post by moneywoes »

alyandon wrote: post #24
cowpig wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US healthcare system is systematically broken. I've sworn off doing business in that sector because the cultural attitude that insurance companies have towards payment has infected everything. You can't trust anything anyone says about how much they will pay for something. Some kind of drawn-out, adversarial process around payment collection is the expectation. Sorry for that rant I am a bit traumatized by my exp…

It is absolutely insane what insurance companies will actually pay for - mine was fulling willing to pay $1250 for a simple ultrasound procedure at a hospital facility vs $150 at a specialty clinic. I made the smart decision to have it done at the clinic but it isn't like I'm going to be rewarded for that decision by paying lower premiums.

How do find these prices

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Post by wonderwonder »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #7
dsfyu404ed wrote: post #2

I understand that $25 may have been an introductory loss leader but $1k seems insane and short sighted given the size of the market this drug potentially has.

Surely there is a formula that can solve for an optimum price that will maximize revenue by making it cheap enough for a certain segment of the population to pay for out of pocket. I don't have diabetes and I'm not morbidly obese, but I have struggled with my weight, and, frankly, given the hype, I'd try it on my own if it were something like $100/mo.

"The conflict, which has been exacerbated by shortages of Mounjaro and two of its GLP-1 predecessors, Ozempic and Trulicit"

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Post by rhinoceraptor »

ancientworldnow wrote: post #31
Retric wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn’t explain why the rate of obesity has increased so dramatically over just a few decades. Like most widespread changes there are many root causes simply producing a massive surplus of food being an obvious requirement. If you’re selling food, getting people to consume more is simply more profitable. Various mechanisms kick in after someone gains weight to maintain that weight. Which is why the drug mentione…

Americans on average eat 400-700 more calories per day than in the 1970's. That explains it pretty well.

That doesn't explain anything, it's a tautology. This is like saying the reason why rich people are rich is that they make more money than they spend.

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Post by briffle »

kemiller2002 wrote: post #19
Bluecobra wrote: post #11

> When someone takes an anti-obesity medication like Mounjaro, the amount of fat the body wants to maintain is re-regulated, usually to a lower weight. “When you take the medication away, that defended fat mass goes back up, and weight is regained,” Jastreboff said. “In order to continue to maintain the new re-regulated defended fat mass, and weight reduction, you have to continue taking the medication.” This doesn’t…

The real problem is not as a weight loss drug, but as a way to regulate diabetes. My girlfriend is on it, because the other medications don't work outside of insulin which has it's own difficulties. The sudden raise in price and her insurance refusing to pay for it means she either has to do it out of pocket or try and switch to something else which may or may not work. The real problem with using it as a weight loss…

>Overeating is a psychological problem.

Many would argue that drugs like this and Ozempic are showing that overeating is more of a hormone problem then a psychological problem.

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Post by ilikecakeandpie »

Bluecobra wrote: post #11

> When someone takes an anti-obesity medication like Mounjaro, the amount of fat the body wants to maintain is re-regulated, usually to a lower weight. “When you take the medication away, that defended fat mass goes back up, and weight is regained,” Jastreboff said. “In order to continue to maintain the new re-regulated defended fat mass, and weight reduction, you have to continue taking the medication.” This doesn’t…

It is tough, but that initial "whoosh" can be the momentum someone needs to help them continue/maintain healthy habits they built during that time.

I was put on Ozempic last year for a short amount of time. That, combined with changing of diet and starting an exercise routine, lead me to lose ~60 pounds in a relatively short amount of time (~8 months). I'm not taking the medication anymore and I did gain about 20 pounds back, but it's a lot easier going on a walk or run when you're carrying net 40 fewer pounds.

Willpower and discipline are simple things but they're not easy. In my opinion, it's important that the patient uses it as boost instead of a crutch and don't get too discouraged if/when they wean off and gain some weight back.

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Post by wonderwonder »

falcolas wrote: post #12

The company that gouges customers for life saving insulin (edit: not epipens) gouges customers for another life saving drug. Capitalism, ho! (If you accept that obesity kills, reducing obesity saves everyone’s money and lives)

"The conflict, which has been exacerbated by shortages of Mounjaro and two of its GLP-1 predecessors, Ozempic and Trulicit"

Supply chain issues

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Post by fourseventy »

falcolas wrote: post #12

The company that gouges customers for life saving insulin (edit: not epipens) gouges customers for another life saving drug. Capitalism, ho! (If you accept that obesity kills, reducing obesity saves everyone’s money and lives)

It turns out you can cure obesity for free without any medication at all. Who knew.

Re: Diabetes drug Mounjaro was available at $25/month, then increased to $1k/month

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Post by CuriouslyC »

Bluecobra wrote: post #11

> When someone takes an anti-obesity medication like Mounjaro, the amount of fat the body wants to maintain is re-regulated, usually to a lower weight. “When you take the medication away, that defended fat mass goes back up, and weight is regained,” Jastreboff said. “In order to continue to maintain the new re-regulated defended fat mass, and weight reduction, you have to continue taking the medication.” This doesn’t…

For a lot of people, being obese impacts their ability to live an active lifestyle and desire to be social, which causes them to sit around and eat more, causing them to get fatter in a vicious cycle. Breaking the cycle for these people will have long term benefits.

Other people just have a disorder, where they literally don't feel the full signals that normal people do, so they only feel "full" when their stomachs are stuffed to discomfort. These people are already consigned to a life of suffering, either from being obese or from constant hunger and an inability to have a normal relationship with food. In this case being on a medication for the rest of your life is the lesser of two evils.

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