Looks really nice! Even though I'm a SMTP/IMAP admin since ages I feel the need for easy-to-use mail solutions.
Show HN: Mox - Modern full-featured low-maintenance self-hosted mail server
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Re: Show HN: Mox - Modern full-featured low-maintenance self-hosted mail server
#32If you find mox interesting, you may also enjoy this interactive mox code review with Jonathan on his Boldly Go channel, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6pGvbGXo38.
Re: Show HN: Mox - Modern full-featured low-maintenance self-hosted mail server
#33This project's scope is rather impressive, and from what I've gleaned from skimming its docs, it might be the perfect solution for people who want to self-host email. It tries to have most of the advanced/difficult things (like getting DKIM set up right) taken care of for the postmaster, as far as that is possible within a single application. I love that it will print the DNS records you'll need to set up in your zon…
I have used https://mailinabox.email/ for about 1.5 years. Installation was dead simple, and no technical problems after.
Re: Show HN: Mox - Modern full-featured low-maintenance self-hosted mail server
#34I like the sound of this. The last time I set up my own email server, it was a nightmare.
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#35The project looks cool! However, I think the hard part of self-hosting email is not the tech stack, it's getting email delivered to your recipients using Google or Microsoft severe email servers. It's hard to rent a server that IP address is not in a block that big email providers consider suspicious already or will soon. And any mishaps can get you locked out and you need manual intervention to be allowed again. I u…
If you’re not sending a very large amount of mail you can just get an AWS account and send through them for almost no money.
Re: Show HN: Mox - Modern full-featured low-maintenance self-hosted mail server
#36I wonder how does it compare to Maddy mail server: https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy
We have largely the same goals, see the first issue on the tracker with the same question. (:
Link for the lazy: https://github.com/mjl-/mox/issues/1
My own question is similar to one of the comments on the issue, how likely is it to have integrations with other authentication services? SSO was mentioned there, but I'm looking more specifically for integration on top of Ory products.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mailu, like poste, zimbra, univention, and a dozen other projects like it, suffers from being just a layer of glue scripts and leaky abstractions on top of very complicated dedicated software stacks – dovecot, postfix, rspamd, etc. are all complex beasts on their own, and have 30 years worth of accumulated configuration knobs to fiddle with. Postfix and dovecot in particular are also service orchestration frameworks…
> nor do the authors care about "this silly new fad" In fairness, if you have chosen a platform that potentially introduces its own issues that isn't their problem unless they want it to be. A friend of mine has a project out there that only has official builds and build instructions for plain debian-based Linux, and he finds demands for direct docker support to be irritating (far worse than demands for a supported n…
Sure, it's the author's right to choose what to support and what not. But I'd argue that software openly hostile to docker is probably not the best choice as central piece of your docker-compose based emailling setup, if the alternative is a single golang binary designed for use with docker.
Re: Show HN: Mox - Modern full-featured low-maintenance self-hosted mail server
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did all of this when self hosting for a few years. It was mostly fine, but for a couple of undelivered emails. Those were just enough that I lost trust in the system and eventually stopped running my own email. People mostly expect email to be fully reliable. It’s not, but that doesn’t stop people treating it like that. As a result, even if you only fail to deliver 1 in 1000 emails, that could have significant cons…
This sums up the problem quite nicely. IMO, what needs to happen is for people to see the 1 in 1000 as a problem with Gmail et al. rather than a problem with someone hosting their own STMP server. Generally speaking, people I know who self-host their email do not have problems. However, inevitably there is the 1 in 1000. IMO, unreached recipients using Gmail et al. are likely to see the problem as with the self-hoste…
To be honest, in the last 20 years or so of self-hosting emails, the most common failure points were
• Gmail marked an email as spam, but still delivered it. Easily cleared up, no hard feelings on either side.
• Someone else self-hosts some abysmally maintained Exchange 2003 setup that just about barely works with GMail and Office365, after the MSP irresponsible for it gets enough verbal beatings. Impossible to get to work.
Re: Show HN: Mox - Modern full-featured low-maintenance self-hosted mail server
#39The project looks cool! However, I think the hard part of self-hosting email is not the tech stack, it's getting email delivered to your recipients using Google or Microsoft severe email servers. It's hard to rent a server that IP address is not in a block that big email providers consider suspicious already or will soon. And any mishaps can get you locked out and you need manual intervention to be allowed again. I u…
>it's getting email delivered to your recipients using Google or Microsoft severe email servers.
That's why one ought to do ip warming on the ip and contact different big email provider to get the ip white listed. It is not impossible. Maybe ought to be a service to do all that bureaucratic stuff.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
We have largely the same goals, see the first issue on the tracker with the same question. (:
Link for the lazy: https://github.com/mjl-/mox/issues/1 My own question is similar to one of the comments on the issue, how likely is it to have integrations with other authentication services? SSO was mentioned there, but I'm looking more specifically for integration on top of Ory products.
I added "implement oauth2 support" to the todo list from that comment. Shouldn't be too hard. If anyone has tips for simple-to-setup-oauth2 setups to test against, let me know. Is oauth2 support enough to get SSO covered? SASL (as used by SMTP/submission and IMAP) supports other methods (openid, saml), but I don't know clients that support that.