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Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Post by Dalewyn »

mcphage wrote: post #252
Dalewyn wrote: post #245

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I'm happy, or at least as happy as I can be, but I don't consider the cycle of life as something I want to see repeated with successive generations. One lap around the course is plenty. If others want to bring more horses in, they're welcome to; as for me I'm not interested.

Sure, there’s plenty of reasons to not have kids, I do get that. But “I’m happy with life but I think that everyone else’s is horrible misery” is an odd position to hold.

>I think that everyone else’s is horrible misery

When did I ever say that? I don't care about others' lives, it's none of my business.

I find life, as far as I experience it, to be overall horrible. I'm plenty happy regardless, but it's nonetheless not something I'm interested in foisting onto my hypothetical kids.

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Post by throwcean »

thowaway47437 wrote: post #124

Throwaway account due to sensitive personal stories. Me and my 4 close friends are reasonably successful in terms of societal standards; we all hit the gym religiously, earn over 100K in a big European city, speak multiple languages and we are all in our early to mid 30s. Dating wise, we each have our funnel of dates from dating apps, nights out where we collect numbers and one night stands. We regularly get around 2…

This is the most immature and narcissistic comment I've read in a long time. I think you absolutely don't get what a relationship is about. Having a best friend as partner who is always around. Having kids that give a whole new meaning to live. Just mating with the next best babe will give you no long term satisfaction. What you describe here sounds more like an addiction.

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Post by midoridensha »

tokai wrote: post #52
the_doctah wrote: post #26

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What's your personal "it's been shown" threshold then?

Scientific studies. Not a blog post from a private company. There was a host of potential issues with their data due to sampling, questioning, etc.

Good luck finding anyone that wants to do such a study.

The best we're going to get is data from dating apps. And even that's now hard to find, since Match.com removed that blog post after purchasing OKCupid.

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Post by midoridensha »

medvezhenok wrote: post #138
dsfyu404ed wrote: post #35

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>A man who is financially autonomous, practices basic hygiene and grooming, wears tasteful clothing, and approaches women with respect and manners has nothing to worry about... one interesting hobby... Congratulations, you've just described 95% of men who are gainfully employed in fairly technical white collar sectors of the economy. You're getting down-voted because they are probably the single biggest demographic o…

A lot of people are in denial of basic genetic factors and keep trying to intellectualize mating practices. I found that listening to the "Beat Your Genes" podcast the most helpful out of the resources available. Women (on average, obviously individuals are different) are attracted to status vastly more than anything else. All the other "requirements" are basically seen as proxies for status (job, income, character,…

>I also find that America is completely in denial about the status game, where as other countries are more honest about it (i.e. people will actually tell you)

I've found that IT has much higher status in other countries than it does in America. American women want men who are lawyers (or politicians), doctors, or business executives, not engineers or IT people. In other countries, women don't all have an automatic stigma against IT, because they know it pays well.

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Post by midoridensha »

brnewd wrote: post #72
acidtakes1 wrote: post #12

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We do not need to produce less people.

It's an unpopular opinion for sure. But as it stands, our planet cannot sustain the way we exploit it. Our seas are being emptied and poisoned, we cut rainforest to be used for overcropping. It's what happens if you have 8 Billion people on a relative small planet. Sure we could do better but that's not in our nature untill doom stands on our doorstep.

Sorry for the pedantry, but Earth is not a "relatively small" planet. It's actually quite large for a rocky planet. Out of all the rocky planets and moons in our own system, Earth is by far the largest (except for Venus, which is about 90% the size). From what we're seeing with exoplanet research, it looks like Earth is still pretty large, though it's hard to tell since we have a hard time detecting smaller planets, and the "super-Earths" are more easily visible to us.

Of courses, compared to gas giants, Earth is small, but that's like comparing apples and whales.

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Post by bongoman37 »

finnthehuman wrote: post #248
cragfar wrote: post #173

Boys are constantly chided for pursuing women all through school and the media. Getting denounced as creepy or weird. Actually following that advice will lead you to die alone though.

Some people are timorous and some people are reckless; unfortunately public messaging is calibrated for the latter.

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Post by 4gotunameagain »

nradov wrote: post #243
4gotunameagain wrote: post #229

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We will never know exactly how it was for the average person, so we might as well dream that it was better. Of course it wouldn't have been heaven, but maybe a bit less complicated at least ?

Less complicated in some dimensions, more complicated in others. There's no evidence that net complexity is higher today. Navigating social hierarchies has never been simple since before our ancestors came down out of the trees. As others have pointed out in this discussion, we exactly know that in pre-modern times the average man died childless. https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success

I was more referring to complexity of life in general, not reproduction wise. Also you cannot extrapolate a couple thousand year fluke to the entire pre-modern times.

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Post by bongoman37 »

danielrpa wrote: post #127

I grew up in Latin America but now I'm married to an American woman and thus out of the "pool". I hang out with coworkers still in their 20s and I'm blown away by how their teens and 20s differed from mine. When I was single, all my friends and I could think about was how to find the next date or sexual partner. We were all very active, and I personally had over a dozen "serious" girlfriends (3+ months) and another c…

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Post by ovi256 »

eimrine wrote: post #185
ovi256 wrote: post #33

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We have a bunch a problem that could be solved by tech progress. Tech progress is pushed by more brains. More sticks in pop fertility's wheels reduce the number of brains available to work on said problems.

> Tech progress is pushed by more brains. You are saying that in such a way like we may just grow gazillions of C. Elegans and fill the gap. (this is an organism with the smallest brain known, very popular guest in neuro studies).

That would be cool but I was obviously thinking the most boring and reasonable solution, more human brains educable to a high enough level in the usual suspect domains.

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Post by bongoman37 »

tokai wrote: post #52
the_doctah wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your personal "it's been shown" threshold then?

Scientific studies. Not a blog post from a private company. There was a host of potential issues with their data due to sampling, questioning, etc.

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