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Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by trpv »

corbulo wrote: post #124
erulabs wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why are we inventing 100 different models of cars every year? What a waste of human potential. Human efficiency and human potential are very different things. I don't want to be an efficient cog in a well designed efficient machine. I want to be a human being - building cars is cool and fun. Fun is probably a waste too, I suppose. "Two plus two makes four without my will", etc.

Think of all the cool and fun things that no one has built yet though.

Like all the cool cars that haven’t been built yet. Some people really enjoy them

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Post by trpv »

lumb63 wrote: post #184
winter_blue wrote: post #134

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This looks amazing, tbh.

Looks stunning, but no thanks. I want analog dials and physical buttons and knobs for features like gauges, air conditioning, and volume.

Yes! Screens and flush buttons are not good UX for a car. One should be able to change volume, air conditioning settings, radio station/song without taking their eyes off the road.

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Post by trpv »

haliskerbas wrote: post #91
dontlaugh wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, except the last bit. My phone should have nothing to do with the UI showing speed or RPM.

I can get behind this. I'm okay with a simple car display for the vehicles vitals.

Or analog dials and indicators instead of a display

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Post by adornKey »

qrohlf wrote: post #5

I was recently an owner of a Merced-Benz commercial van, and the software was by far the worst part of that whole experience. It had obvious race-condition type bugs when it came to the user interface layer, but most frustrating was its tendency to succumb to some kind of memory leak on long drives where the entire head unit would just lock up and crash to a black screen after 6-7 hours of being turned on. Because th…

We had a young guy writing good software for us while he still was going to school. We still use it to get things done in production. Then he went to university. He came back for a summer job. He had the sudden urge to ditch everything he used to do and to use the newest unproven technology. Also he had a serious urge to install everything from Microsoft.

Then he created a piece of slow software full of flaws and performance problems - with a lot of unnecessary fluff in the UI. (At some time he mentioned that he was going to use multi-threading for every button, to reduce the lag when drawing the UI).

Then he joined Mercedes-Benz... And makes a lot of money there. And I'm really happy that I don't have to worry about him anymore. I read some job descriptions for Mercedes-Benz and I think he most likely totally fits in there.

What they do to young people in Universities today must be really terrible...

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Post by jesterson »

osrec wrote: post #173

Mercedes has been disappointing me over and over again. Their car body designs are becoming difficult to look at, especially the electric range (the EQS is one ugly car). Their software is HORRENDOUSLY buggy. Their 2007 S-Class is a smoother ride than their 2022 model. I love what Mercedes used to stand for, but right now they are pretty much selling cars on brand value, not because they're actually great cars. The n…

Comments like this actually turn me off buying MB again. I used to have a lot of MB cars back in 90s- 200xs - C-klasse, S-klasse, and then a number of V-klasse and every time it was a pleasure in every sense. Never had any unreasonable problem with them. Buggy software? It was unheard.

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Post by jesterson »

spfzero wrote: post #100
guluarte wrote: post #7

>Offering flexible upgrades do you want to buy the headlights DLC ($0.9 first month, then $29.9)? Y/n

Pop-up ads over your fuel gauge. Monetized!

Turn left over there and stop at gas station!*

*- Proudly brought to you by Shell.

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Post by throwaway61803 »

throwaway account

- the cheapest supplier/contractor gets the contract. Always!

- the salaries in engineering are among the lowest on the market (at least in Germany). The headcount increased from 200 to 800+ in just a couple of years but so did the churn rate and focusing on the salary when hiring, means a lot of talent is skipped from the start (candidates should be happy with 20% less salary given that they work at Mercedes :shrugging Obama meme:)

- (lower) managers and engineers are generally apathetic and disinterested - about the products, their teams and the company. Higher management lives in a parallel universe.

- and maaaaany more issues

I know I'm bitter but, looking at Maslow's hierarchy of needs, how can you expect your employees to reach their full potential when, as an employer, you don't even offer them the basics: a decent salary, support, guidance etc.

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Post by jesterson »

nanidin wrote: post #214
megatoaster wrote: post #45

“In China, Mercedes-Benz is engaging in a local cloud partnership with Tencent to support its automated driving systems. An enriched UI for automated driving functions including an advanced lane-level map view is planned.” Tencent, really? How did that come about?

This is how deals are done in China. You want to expose your cloud service to Chinese users? You need to partner with a Chinese company that will effectively run the cloud infrastructure, possibly run the server software, and definitely have access to all of your IP and certificates. The real question for me is what does an ADAS system rely on the cloud for? Hopefully nothing in real time.

> This is how deals are done in China

You seriously think deals are done differently in other countries if you are as big as Mercedes Benz?

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Post by trpv »

ryanianian wrote: post #48
_hcuq wrote: post #36

Ok... What car brand has the least bad UI these days? I have been putting off getting a new car for about a year.

I have a recent Mazda. It boots to CarPlay pretty quickly. Its native controls are pretty utilitarian when they are needed (e.g. to switch to native SiriusXM when cell signal is spotty). I even prefer the look of its maps although I don't use them. Nothing in the car is a touchscreen. And, get a load of this: they still have actual and intuitive physical buttons for climate controls, defrosters, and driving modes. Oh…

Do they have analog dials for speed and RPM?

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Post by cjrp »

am44jnsf wrote: post #150
cameronh90 wrote: post #130

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Honestly, I feel like German cars have an undeserved reputation for quality. German cars are superficially well built, quite fast, and make satisfying thunks when you close the doors. However, they are fairly unreliable, sensitive, and when they do fail, cost a lot to repair. I'll take a Japanese car any day, however, Hyundai, Volvo, Skoda, Kia, Peugeot and Ford are also better engineered than most German cars nowada…

Skodas are just previous gen Volkswagens btw

Not even previous gen any more. They just get interiors that aren’t quite as nice (more plastic).
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