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Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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It's not from what I read. MBUX, the UI is built using Qt.

That kind of implies that the new Mercedes OS will have some kind of POSIX API, since Qt doesn't really work without it. Their new Qt/MCU bullshit doesn't count.

Windows isn't POSIX, and Qt does just fine there.

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I’m also horrified by the trend to put more and more of the meters into the UI. My Ford has done the booting thing before on a highway as well as once it flipped the screen horizontally until it was shut down and started again. I can’t imagine the quality is any better for the display components that will replace speedometers and such

My (admittedly-beloved) 2015 F-150 will reboot Sync if I'm listening to music (usually on Soundcloud) if the song title includes non-ASCII characters.

Awesome, a real world example of the phonograph-destroying record from the book "Gödel, Escher, Bach" ! What a time to be alive! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach

Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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This is one unconscious bias from California-based self-driving companies: weather conditions worse than overcast skies exist in other parts of the world. Recently, I drove in a whiteout blizzard with huge flakes without much accumulation on the road. Road was drivable, but I couldn’t see road markings. The experience would have been less scary with some sort of augmented display to show the road borders.

> Road was drivable, but I couldn’t see road markings. That's a bit contradictory. If you can't see the road markings the road is not drivable.

Not all roads get properly cleaned (esp. non-major ones) in a lot of parts of the word, driving on snow is rather common in North Europe.

Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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The name MB.OS is misleading. It is not a new operating system but a linux or android based hmi sytem.

My bet is that the name is due to internal empire building or hype to shareholders. Being in charge of "MB.OS" sounds better than "another attempt at a good infotainment system". Add in trendy "digital" offices and you've got yourself an aesthetic.

I think it is simpler. It used to be MBUX and that was hard to communicate to people on the street. MB.OS is a lit closer to iOS which helps.

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Both Mercedes and Volkswagen have absolutely massive software divisions, easily 10k+ people. They pay really well for German standards and have access to a large talent pool of people that would like to live in Germany.

Big and well paid doesn’t equal quality. The fiasco of id3 is the best example. Or the whole Audi/VW drama. It doesn’t change the fact that their management just doesn’t get software. Pouring more money over that and hiring more “talent” isn’t going to change that.

> The fiasco of id3

Could you explain what specifically you refer to?

Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Yikes, I don't feel like Benz has the Software Engineering talent to pull something like this off, which will definitely make me hesitate in getting in a car that runs the OS

A lot of people will (wisely) wait to see how this pans out before getting a car with this software in it. The car industry is full of manufacturers who decided to build their own software and failed miserably -- this continues to this day. With the exception of Tesla, very little car software matches anything like CarPlay or Android Auto and that's basically a medium sized feature of your phone.

>matches anything like CarPlay or Android Auto

Those are not any OS, just a basic graphic overlay. OS for instance would be the one communicating to AndroidAuto over bluetooth/usb, and driving the GPU that renders it.

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Out of the park non sequitur.

What? Someone hates advertising and especially with their car. Absolutely reasonable position to take. I ask them how far they go with that? Reasonable to go absolutely hardcore and get rid of /all/ of it. Reasonable to say that level of advertising isn't that annoying so not worth the effort. I ask which because I'm interested in the response. None of that looks particularly controversial to me and I'm not seeing a…

Do you not see a difference from a Mercedes logo on the hood and and McDonald’s ads blaring from the infotainment system?

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> Road was drivable, but I couldn’t see road markings. That's a bit contradictory. If you can't see the road markings the road is not drivable.

In Ontario and it's very common to be driving on packed snow for a few days after new snowfall. You get barely any road markings at all. You just use common sense and memory to try and act like the lane dividers, turning lanes, stop lines are still there. It must be the same in many parts of the US as well. With winter tires and the right attitude its perfectly fine! But yeah if you can't see the road markings due to…

> You just use common sense and memory to try and act like the lane dividers, turning lanes, stop lines are still there

Isn't this what road signs are for?

Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Yuck: > MB.OS is designed and developed in-house to retain full control You better have some world class software engineers to pull this off, a LOT of them. And retain them. If not, you better go open source. You can still retain full control with open source. Good software is the KEY to good cars, especially electric ones. Why are we inventing 100 different models of cars every year? What a waste of human potential.

Good cars are the ones that have the least software imo. I’d prefer my car to not have adaptive cruise control, brake or lane assist, etc. More failure points and less control over my own car
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