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Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by mlyle »

justinclift wrote: post #18
lord_sudo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just my 2c, but those gaps look too uneven to be produced by a framework. They remind me of my own html from scratch when I didn’t use a formatter or linter haha

Yeah, to me they look like the output that I get when I'm writing with Go templates (non-minified afterwards). eg: {{ if eq .FOO "bar" }} {{ end }} {{ if eq .BAZ "bim" }} {{ end }} That ends up generating blank lines all over the place, very much like the output they have. ;)

The revision history doesn't seem to support that. They seem to just mash enter a lot.

Especially it looks like they have lots of edits where they add blank lines and then another tag, and then remove the new tag but not the blank line. E.g. https://github.com/thstsa/spacetourism/commit/6411ce05009cc6...

Or sometimes just replacing things they intend to outright remove with blank lines.

With multiple committers, it seems unlikely they're all templating and then checking in the output of the template engine.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by msla »

Zetobal wrote: post #14
trynewideas wrote: post #11

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They used GitHub pages as a dumb host for HTML files, JavaScript, images, CSS. Repo link in the story, here for convenience: https://github.com/thstsa/spacetourism Even has a .nojekyll file in the repo, and they since moved publishing to Netlify.

They are technically right and are teachers... we all know what that means.

Being "technically right" is more rightness than some teachers require: We all know about teachers who are right because they are teachers, ditto bosses and family members and so on. Learning this now is good experience, and learning it in a context where they might even be able to leverage it into a job interview is even better.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by peterkelly »

toastal wrote: post #27
signin0305 wrote: post #22

Hi, I'm Shiloh, the guy that made the original reddit post and medium article. After reading some comments, I clarified my statement on GitHub's role in the CS industry

Training our next generation on proprietary tools like GitHub isn't the way though. Understanding a VCS (i.e. Git, Mercurial, darcs, Pijul, etc.) is great skill and almost certainly a job requirement, but a specific platform? Its classification as “industry standard” could and should be debated as well.

The skills you have to learn in order to use github effectively are pretty generic in nature and easily transferable to other platforms.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

peterkelly wrote: post #28

This is one of those important events in life where you realise that sometimes those who hold seniority over you aren't necessarily as smart as you are. This experience will help you to cultivate a healthy disrespect for authority. We all go through something like this at some point. The best thing to do is to find some sort of constructive way to channel your experience. One path I would suggest is to consider launc…

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Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by californical »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #34
peterkelly wrote: post #28

This is one of those important events in life where you realise that sometimes those who hold seniority over you aren't necessarily as smart as you are. This experience will help you to cultivate a healthy disrespect for authority. We all go through something like this at some point. The best thing to do is to find some sort of constructive way to channel your experience. One path I would suggest is to consider launc…

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The rule in question bans template generators. Their teacher didn’t understand that just because you can technically copy a template off of GitHub doesn’t mean that is the only thing GitHub is for.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by weird-eye-issue »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #34
peterkelly wrote: post #28

This is one of those important events in life where you realise that sometimes those who hold seniority over you aren't necessarily as smart as you are. This experience will help you to cultivate a healthy disrespect for authority. We all go through something like this at some point. The best thing to do is to find some sort of constructive way to channel your experience. One path I would suggest is to consider launc…

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The rule is to not use "Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files..."

They didn't do that. They uploaded the HTML to Github directly.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by boros2me »

I think how the situation turned out and how you dealt with it, gave you a much more important life experience! Dealing with BS project blockers by clients/execs and finding a way to turn it into something positive is not something they teach at school, well done team!

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by justinclift »

mlyle wrote: post #31
justinclift wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, to me they look like the output that I get when I'm writing with Go templates (non-minified afterwards). eg: {{ if eq .FOO "bar" }} {{ end }} {{ if eq .BAZ "bim" }} {{ end }} That ends up generating blank lines all over the place, very much like the output they have. ;)

The revision history doesn't seem to support that. They seem to just mash enter a lot. Especially it looks like they have lots of edits where they add blank lines and then another tag, and then remove the new tag but not the blank line. E.g. https://github.com/thstsa/spacetourism/commit/6411ce05009cc6... Or sometimes just replacing things they intend to outright remove with blank lines. With multiple committers, it s…

Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, I think you're probably right. :)

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #37
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The rule is to not use "Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files..." They didn't do that. They uploaded the HTML to Github directly.

They quote the rule and link to the full rules. GitHub is explicitly mentioned. They failed on a technicality.

https://tsaweb.org/docs/default-source/themes-and-problems-2...

She then points out this rule in the Official Rulebook: I. Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files, such as Webs, Wix, Weebly, GitHub, Jekyll, and Replit, are NOT permitted.

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