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Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by jabits »

ls612 wrote: post #131
jen20 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 90s was a sweet spot for the three luxury German brands: Audi, BMW and Mercedes Benz. Mercedes in particular has had a very marked decline in quality since then.

Like what’s the highest quality luxury brand now, Lexus? Given that it’s Toyota engineering behind it I’d assume they are still good but I’ve never been in that market so idk.

I am currently renting and driving a Tesla from Hertz at SEA on mainland for a week of skiing at Mt Baker. I have a 2020 Lexus RXL at home. While the Tesla has better driving software and sportier handling, the Lexus rides much better and quieter and just seems nicer. Anyway, love the Lexus fwiw.

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Post by SkyPuncher »

babypuncher wrote: post #32
qrohlf wrote: post #5

I was recently an owner of a Merced-Benz commercial van, and the software was by far the worst part of that whole experience. It had obvious race-condition type bugs when it came to the user interface layer, but most frustrating was its tendency to succumb to some kind of memory leak on long drives where the entire head unit would just lock up and crash to a black screen after 6-7 hours of being turned on. Because th…

I don't think I've ever used software provided by an automaker that I would classify as "good". Just varying degrees from "functional, but barebones and clunky" down to "so buggy and useless it's a legitimate safety hazard". As a result, I'm firmly on team "make every infotainment system a dumb terminal for your phone" and refuse to buy any car that doesn't support both Android Auto and Apple CarPlay.

I feel like a fanboy, but I absolutely love my Hyundai Palisade. It's legitimately changed driving for me. Some quirks and annoyances, but absolutely nothing as bad as listed here.

* Software is simple, consistent, and functional. Some goofy choices, but they're mostly visual preference than meaningful usage degradation.

* Hardware buttons support all of the core UX.

* Lane centering and adaptive cruise control as rock solid. I've legitimately had the car follow lane lines that I was struggling to see (rainy with reflections).

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Post by lh7777 »

hackernewds wrote: post #189
lh7777 wrote: post #72

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> if the system fails to detect any other vehicles for a period of more than about 90 minutes, it assumes that there is a sensor fault, and refuses to operate I have a current model Sprinter and this behavior is frustrating (thanks for the explanation, by the way, I thought it was a random bug). Cruise will also disengage in heavy rain or snow, with the system saying the sensor is dirty. It wouldn’t be so bad if trad…

> built-in nav system is useful for those times need directions and don't have a cell signal. You know you can also download Offline maps. One of Google Maps best features.

The nice thing about the built-in nav is that it always works everywhere in the U.S. Google Maps only lets you download an area about half the size of Washington State at a time and you have to manually select the area to download. Fine for local use, but too tedious (and too much disk space) for a long road trip.

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Post by SkyPuncher »

qrohlf wrote: post #5

I was recently an owner of a Merced-Benz commercial van, and the software was by far the worst part of that whole experience. It had obvious race-condition type bugs when it came to the user interface layer, but most frustrating was its tendency to succumb to some kind of memory leak on long drives where the entire head unit would just lock up and crash to a black screen after 6-7 hours of being turned on. Because th…

This comment is extremely enlightening. I'm really considering a Sprinter van as my next vehicle purchase.

We do a _lot_ of driving on rural roads where we can count on a single hand the number of cars we pass in an hour.

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Post by LoganDark »

herpderperator wrote: post #215
amluto wrote: post #195

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I just borrowed a Tesla Model 3 that stopped for green lights. I asked a service person: apparently it is known to stop for a green light if there is no car ahead. The display shows a green light, a red line, and fine print saying that the car will stop for traffic control.

I don't understand this. What does stop for a green light mean?

It treats a green light like a stop sign

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

dsr_ wrote: post #54

A friend just bought a Mustang and showed it off. The driver's dashboard is a somewhat configurable screen. All I could think of was that a 1970 Mustang, treated moderately well and maintained regularly, is still a useful car fifty years later. In fact, if it's survived, the asking price is within spitting distance of a new Mustang. Is there any chance that a 2023 Mustang will be a useful vehicle in 2073? Will any 20…

> Is there any chance that a 2023 Mustang will be a useful vehicle in 2073?

Do tou mean that EV SUV that some MBA called a Mustang? Do you think that battery pack will be useful 50 years from now?

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Post by SkyPuncher »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #24
whalesalad wrote: post #16

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I disagree. Sometimes you need to invent things yourself. Mercedes is an absolutely massive company with many subsidiary brands. This is not an automatic bad move.

But they are not a software company at the core. They need to be to pull this off.

Can you elaborate on why they need to be?

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Post by SkyPuncher »

_hcuq wrote: post #36

Ok... What car brand has the least bad UI these days? I have been putting off getting a new car for about a year.

IMO, Hyundai and Kia.

They currently have a bad rep for lack of engine immobilizers in non-current vehicles, but they've nailed the UI with a combination of software and hardware buttons.

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Post by jen20 »

monkpit wrote: post #219
jen20 wrote: post #190

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Still those three, plus Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, Range Rover etc.

Are you claiming that Land Rover makes a high quality product? Or just a luxurious one?

Mostly a luxurious one today. I test drove a 2012 Range Rover in 2020 and all the rubber on the controls had melted. Would Not Recommend, but they are popular certainly.
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