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Re: Eggspensive

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Post by adolph »

Tagbert wrote: post #40
davidkuennen wrote: post #13

I'm from Germany and in New York right now. Damn is everything expensive here. And everyone running around with a 10+$ Starbucks coffee all the time. Edit: probably not a fair comparison though since I come from the countryside in Germany where everything's generally cheaper than in the cities.

A Starbucks coffee is not $10. A large, handmade dessert like a Frappuccino is $10. A basic cup of coffee is about $3. Sorry to jump on you but people frequently post complaints about Starbucks coffee being super expensive but then using the price of the most expensive item on their menu that is not a normal coffee.

> A basic cup of coffee is about $3.

Outside the anchor effect of comparing it to a $10 cup of fructose, $3 is an outrageous cost for a cup of coffee.

The anchoring effect is a cognitive bias whereby an individual's decisions are influenced by a particular reference point or 'anchor'. Both numeric and non-numeric anchoring have been reported in research. In numeric anchoring, once the value of the anchor is set, subsequent arguments, estimates, etc. made by an individual may change from what they would have otherwise been without the anchor. For example, an individual may be more likely to purchase a car if it is placed alongside a more expensive model (the anchor).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring_(cognitive_bias)

Re: Eggspensive

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Post by pixl97 »

busterarm wrote: post #161
jkestner wrote: post #99

There's a monopoly on US eggs, and like seemingly every industry right now, they're blaming externalities to cover the fact that price increases are mostly going to shareholders. https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/23/cant-make-an-omelet/#keep...

We're almost at 60 Million dead poultry in the US from H5N1 since Jan '22. Even before that during covid, there were super long periods of unprofitability for raising turkey to the point that you couldn't even buy whole turkeys in most of the southeastern US for over 10 months. Monopolies are a problem but certainly not the cause of this one.

I mean, 60 million sounds like a big number, but it seems that the average number of chickens slaughtered per day in the US is somewhere around 24 million birds.

I think you may underestimate the scale of poultry slaughter in the US.

Re: Eggspensive

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Post by em500 »

samstave wrote: post #31
davidkuennen wrote: post #13

I'm from Germany and in New York right now. Damn is everything expensive here. And everyone running around with a 10+$ Starbucks coffee all the time. Edit: probably not a fair comparison though since I come from the countryside in Germany where everything's generally cheaper than in the cities.

May you please give some price comparisons for fairly similar items youll find in germany vs us (grocery or otherwise) - lets not talk about healthcare and bribing politicians :-) - Since I am "posting too fast (thanks @Dang), Ill post my replies in this edit: @StuporGlue ; >> "Yeah, almost all of those prices are lower than in the US.... I think a gallon of milk is about $4.99 or $5.99 (usually ~$1+ higher if we are…

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...

Re: Eggspensive

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Post by philipwhiuk »

moremetadata wrote: post #226
swores wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your second paragraph, but I'm failing to understand why a company would want to manipulate government unemployment figures (and indeed, surely if they actually lay off staff then they're not manipulating the reporting/figures, they're changing the reality which is then reflected in the figures)?

I saw a stock market company in the UK do this in the 90's, mostly through natural wastage and not replacing the position, a total ban on recruitment except essential jobs, whilst blaming the new govt. Businesses need ways to control govt for their own means, just look at the legislation, regulations and business practices that exists and does not exist in one country and not another. The US Supreme Court case Gonzal…

This reads like it was written by a Markov chain.

Re: Eggspensive

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Post by l33t233372 »

mellavora wrote: post #228
nostrademons wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn't there a movie where a coffee exec sardonically talks about plying customers with "legal addictive stimulants"? Caffeine is addictive. There are a lot of caffeine addicts in the U.S. Starbucks sells a menu full of caffeine. That's why people buy from them.

>plying customers with "legal addictive stimulants"? > Caffeine is addictive. Starbucks sells a menu full of caffeine. That's why people buy from them. Hey, your quote says "stimulants", plural, but you only mention one, caffeine. Can someone put some sugar on this list? More addictive than cocaine-infused heroin with a methamphetaine sidecar. And I hear some Starbucks products may contain sugar. Probably just a rumo…

Sugar is not that addictive. I’ve gone from eating lots of consistent sugar to eating meat and vegetables for weeks before. I was not balled crying from my withdrawals.

Re: Eggspensive

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Post by spydum »

codemac wrote: post #67
samstave wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What we really need is a digital copy of all our purchasing receipts via the following: An app which scans a QR code printed on receipts which leads to a direct json/table of the items purchased, location purchased, date, price paid. NO PERSONAL DATA - just the item, store name & location, price, date, tax %. People can CHOOSE to scan their receipt and have that data slurped into the app and uploaded to a national DB…

I think most people would be fine if we had a national DB for prices. Most people would not be fine if we had 3+ competing private db's with price info used to profit off of others lack of price knowledge.

this exists basically at very large scales with companies like nielseniq and to some degree Catalina marketing. If there was a way to make money off it, they could easily produce a lot of useful aggregate item pricing dbs by region over time.

Re: Eggspensive

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Post by Thetawaves »

p_j_w wrote: post #255
Thetawaves wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In September of last year, the frequency of goods selection for calculating CPI changed from every 2 years to every year. The change came into effect in January 2023. https://www.bls.gov/cpi/notices/2022/methodology-changes-202...

That is not evidence of what GP is talking about.

How is it not?

Re: Eggspensive

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Post by zactato »

I mostly buy my eggs from local farms at the farmers market for ~$10. I'm in the Bay area so nothing is cheap. Price have gone up lately as many of the farmers have had to cull based on bird flu.

This is a bit more than I'd like to pay, but its not going to break the bank. I'm happy to have some eggs that taste good and I know come from birds that aren't tortured.

Its odd to me that people are totally willing to spend $60k on a car but whine about eggs that costs more than $0.50. To each their own.

Re: Eggspensive

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Post by gruez »

samstave wrote: post #46
ravenstine wrote: post #22

I think there's something a bit misleading about these prices. This is reporting prices of $2.76 per dozen at a Wallmart near me. I happened to visit that store yesterday and I know damn well there were no eggs being sold at even remotely close to that low price. The Eggspensive site seems to be picking up on this dozen eggs, which happens to be not available at this or any other store in the region. They also are no…

What we really need is a digital copy of all our purchasing receipts via the following: An app which scans a QR code printed on receipts which leads to a direct json/table of the items purchased, location purchased, date, price paid. NO PERSONAL DATA - just the item, store name & location, price, date, tax %. People can CHOOSE to scan their receipt and have that data slurped into the app and uploaded to a national DB…

>At the beginning of the pandemic, juice from MINUTE MAID in half gallon was $1.34 -- currently it is $1.68 11.25% inflation increase for this sugar water alone.

That sounds like a lot until you realize that "beginning of pandemic" (February 2020?) was almost 3 years ago, and the CPI itself has gone up 15.8% in the meantime.

Re: Eggspensive

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Post by tristor »

pixl97 wrote: post #262
busterarm wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're almost at 60 Million dead poultry in the US from H5N1 since Jan '22. Even before that during covid, there were super long periods of unprofitability for raising turkey to the point that you couldn't even buy whole turkeys in most of the southeastern US for over 10 months. Monopolies are a problem but certainly not the cause of this one.

I mean, 60 million sounds like a big number, but it seems that the average number of chickens slaughtered per day in the US is somewhere around 24 million birds. I think you may underestimate the scale of poultry slaughter in the US.

Those are culls, not slaughters. They aren't the same thing. You cannot sell culled chickens for food, they are culled due to disease and are considered biohazard, because they can infect other parts of the flock or other flocks, and in the case of bird flu are also infectious to humans. Generally, the USDA requires a full cull of flocks if any birds are affected. My sister is into urban chickens and bird flu is very much not a joke, and trying to prevent it is hard because humans can carry it and infect chickens and chickens can infect humans.

Also, the chicken you eat and the chicken that lays eggs aren't even the same breed at industrial scale.

Also, I know that many regulations, including USDA regulations, are a bit of a joke in the US, but bird flu is one thing they very much do not fuck around on. The loss of those 60 millions birds is a straight economic loss that's non-recoverable for those egg producers.

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