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Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by GoToRO »

qrohlf wrote: post #5

I was recently an owner of a Merced-Benz commercial van, and the software was by far the worst part of that whole experience. It had obvious race-condition type bugs when it came to the user interface layer, but most frustrating was its tendency to succumb to some kind of memory leak on long drives where the entire head unit would just lock up and crash to a black screen after 6-7 hours of being turned on. Because th…

That sw does not come from Mercedes, they just buy different devices for what they need from suppliers. The salary offered by one such supplier for a graduate engineer was less than what a construction company was offering to hang dry wall (qualified worker). The construction company was raising a new building for the supplier.

Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by zie »

lallysingh wrote: post #79
zie wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One with Apple CarPlay and/or Android Auto built-in, so you can avoid the car UI as much as possible.

I put a quad-lock on my dashboard and just stick my phone on it. It's right next to my steering wheel. I set the stereo to bluetooth link and everything's actually great. I think CarPlay and Auto are too much. Outside of navigation and music, what overlap do we have in a car and phone? Just enable bluetooth sending of locations or full-on directions. Bluetooth music already works great. Eventually we'll have voice ag…

Totally valid. What's a quad-lock? is that some sort of phone mount?

Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by ryandrake »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #68
orbifold wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Mercedes and Volkswagen have absolutely massive software divisions, easily 10k+ people. They pay really well for German standards and have access to a large talent pool of people that would like to live in Germany.

Big and well paid doesn’t equal quality. The fiasco of id3 is the best example. Or the whole Audi/VW drama. It doesn’t change the fact that their management just doesn’t get software. Pouring more money over that and hiring more “talent” isn’t going to change that.

Most hardware companies are not known for good software. They treat software like it's just another line item on the BOM: Like a bolt or a screw. Procure it as cheaply as possible, scoop it into the product on the assembly line, and make sure it passes a few checkboxes and you're done. Unless they see software as a core differentiating product feature that drives purchases, their quality bar is going to be "barely good enough to not cause a product recall".

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Post by Philip-J-Fry »

haliskerbas wrote: post #29

The best car OS so far (even better than Tesla IMO) has been Apple CarPlay. Just be dumb and let my phone handle it, and make the touch screen decent. Bonus points if you implement the multi screen CarPlay concept! Just give up!

This is why I can't wait until the next generation CarPlay is released. When your phone is rendering the infotainment and the driver display it's going to be game changing based on the examples Apple showed.

Android Auto/CarPlay changed car infotainment forever, and the next logical step is to just take over the whole thing.

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Post by rootusrootus »

speedgoose wrote: post #12
gigatexal wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All it needs to do is support CarPlay. Honestly car manufacturers should just let Apple do the whole car takeover. I’ve not met a stock system I liked. I’d rather it be powered by my phone.

I like the BMW and the Tesla ones. I also heard good things about the Polestar Android. The current OS on the Mercedes looks very laggy and not very user friendly, but if they fixed these major issues it could be quite nice. The high end Mercedes has a huge oled dashboard, it’s not something Apple CarPlay supports.

Tesla's is fairly good, but the way they handle text messages leaves me really wishing I could just have CarPlay. I may install a third-party screen somewhere so I can have it back.

Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by Bud »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #15

Why does the automobile industry insist on keeping these things in-house when they are clearly terrible at them? I recall an interview with a Ford manager a few years back where they were asked something about adopting Car Play and the response was something like “we have people that can write software for us, so we won’t be using that.”

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Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by s1mon »

haliskerbas wrote: post #29

The best car OS so far (even better than Tesla IMO) has been Apple CarPlay. Just be dumb and let my phone handle it, and make the touch screen decent. Bonus points if you implement the multi screen CarPlay concept! Just give up!

This is the same reason I do not want a smart TV. I have one (a Sony), but thankfully it must have lost contact with our WiFi network at some point and I never notice that it does anything other than act as a monitor for our Apple TV. It used to be that it would periodically bug me about software updates and I would endure its dreadful UI just long enough to get through that.

Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

GoToRO wrote: post #81
qrohlf wrote: post #5

I was recently an owner of a Merced-Benz commercial van, and the software was by far the worst part of that whole experience. It had obvious race-condition type bugs when it came to the user interface layer, but most frustrating was its tendency to succumb to some kind of memory leak on long drives where the entire head unit would just lock up and crash to a black screen after 6-7 hours of being turned on. Because th…

That sw does not come from Mercedes, they just buy different devices for what they need from suppliers. The salary offered by one such supplier for a graduate engineer was less than what a construction company was offering to hang dry wall (qualified worker). The construction company was raising a new building for the supplier.

That's mostly an irrelevant detail.

Mercedes may not be the OEM in this instance, though they are certainly the vendor, who put their name and reputation to it.

Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by magnuspaaske »

maldev wrote: post #33

Everyones talking about alot of negatives. But I have a E53 AMG 4matic+ coup. It looks amazing, like constant compliments, i've even had people compliment it and give me their number in a wendy's drive through. But the OS(MBUX 2) is actually really good, at first I was a bit negative on it. But the way they have everything integrated that isn't really possible with apple play is nice. The dash is customizable, I have…

I rented an Audi and this was my experience too. It ended up working out really well to use the car navigation system and I still had car play right there for carplay and phone calls. And for navigation stuff you can still load up google or apple maps if you need to double check the route since they sometimes have different traffic information. But most of the time you don't need to
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