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Rovio delists original Angry Birds from PlayStore because it's still too popular

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Post by YurgenJurgensen »

yieldcrv wrote: post #27

A decade ago mobile app gaming showed promise, no real hits but the medium showing that it has legs A decade later it is worse than anyone imagined, no real hits just a couple games from that earlier era because they’re the only ones you can play offline at all if I'm missing some gems let me know!

I remember back when iPhone was just starting to take off, and a lot of the wide-eyed techno-futurists generally had some pithy retort to fans of the latest AAA console game of the form 'You can have your $40 console game, and I'll buy 40 $1 games and we'll see who has more fun'. Well, now the console games cost $70, but the mobile games are 'free'. In this case, 'free' evaluates to somewhere between $100,000 and $'Your Soul'.

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Post by Karliss »

Interesting fact. The version they unlisted is not only remake of original one, it's their latest (or at least one of the latest) released Angry Bird games. It was released in 2022. The other games they want you to play instead are technically older. When making this remake they could have included whatever modern monetization schemes they wanted (as long as it doesn't require too much changes to gameplay itself). Actual original one was removed in 2019. Removing their latest(remake) because it's too popular, make the whole thing more funny than removing actual original version which would be ~14 years old at this point.

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Post by axus »

joenot443 wrote: post #103
tensor wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't play any iOS game with either ads or with a "free but micro-transaction model." If you look in the pay up front category on the app store, there are very very few games. It's too bad.

Tell me about it. I'm an iOS engineer at FAANG, but I've been shipping my own apps since 2011. It's depressing that there's no longer a market for paid, high quality, ad-free, fully packaged apps and games. I actually interned at a mobile games studio for a summer and it was made clear to me what the profit model was: pander solely to the whales, ignore the free users. Something like 70% of our revenue came from 2% o…

The Netflix Games you can get for being a subscriber are decent quality with no ads. I imagine that will get cut at some point unless they've got a way to measure how much this benefits their subscription numbers.

The Amazon Underground thing they used to incentivize their app store was pretty great also, the "Actually Free" games let you unlock everything in the App. That was discontinued in 2019.

It's interesting how much more effective advertising is than word-of-mouth. Maybe its because I'm not an "active gamer", but it's been hard to find honest recommendations for good paid games by small developers. Trying to research through the Play Store is very difficult though not completely impossible. The store credits from "Google Rewards" certainly lubricate the process of trying things out.

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Post by mschuster91 »

cld8483 wrote: post #217
mschuster91 wrote: post #209

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I agree that the SW trilogy was a mess, but that does not excuse Black actors being blasted with n-bombs and other slurs on Twitter and other social media, nor does it excuse the amount of sexist comments against Daisy Ridley. For BP, it was the same. The whine from the far-right about "who wants to see s in movies", "we're being ethnically replaced", "this is our future" etc. was unacceptable.

> but that does not excuse Black actors being blasted with n-bombs and other slurs on Twitter and other social media, I'm not denying, much less excusing that. What I am saying is that such trolls are an irrelevant minority who's voices are amplified by those to whom nutjobs are a convenient excuse for their own failures. Black Panther sold many millions of tickets in America, and had maybe a few thousand 4chan-style…

For the targets of hate campaigns, even a few thousand nutjobs on the Internet is way more than enough to ruin their quality of life. People have been driven to suicide because of that.

The worst thing are the stalkers that don't leave it at comments on Twitter but cross into real world intimidation (e.g. invasive photos, ordering pizzas, ...) to outright violence - you never know when they are gonna hit.

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Post by isk517 »

cld8483 wrote: post #11

They can't compete with what they once were, so they bury the past. I suspect many industries are like this. If classic movies were played alongside new Hollywood releases, the new movies would probably be choked out. Accordingly, Disney will even restrict the availability of their old movies on DVD. They can't stand competing with their former great selves.

I was going to make a snarky comment about how when comparing the present to the past the past has the advantage because you can just ignore all of the garbage that wasn't worth remembering but then I thought, that would actually be a pretty neat (if not particularly practical) experiment. Setup two theatres in the same area, have one just be a regular theater and the other be a theater that only features all of the movies that would have been in the theaters exactly 45 years ago and see how they compare.

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Post by cld8483 »

mdip wrote: post #206
joenot443 wrote: post #103

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Tell me about it. I'm an iOS engineer at FAANG, but I've been shipping my own apps since 2011. It's depressing that there's no longer a market for paid, high quality, ad-free, fully packaged apps and games. I actually interned at a mobile games studio for a summer and it was made clear to me what the profit model was: pander solely to the whales, ignore the free users. Something like 70% of our revenue came from 2% o…

That's so sad. I had this pain with my kids a few months ago while "looking to kill some time" in the Android world. I don't play a lot of phone games and was dismayed at the crap that was out there. I like to introduce the kids to more low-fidelity games -- I started with 2048 -- I want to say probably 5-10 different choices; all I was looking for was "lets me buy away the ads", works offline (one choice was a webvi…

Try FDroid instead of Play Store. FDroid has a clean version of 2048. And Shattered Pixel is pretty good too; a well polished touch-based graphical roguelike, free on FDroid without any ads or IAPs.

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Post by somenameforme »

ssully wrote: post #111
_5uxp wrote: post #87

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They are more dumb tho, scripts and dialogues are so much simple. They rarely give you the feeling of once a lifetime seeing experience. Most of them have too much CGI and sometimes not even looking rea at all.

Sorry, but you are just generalizing based on the top blockbuster movies. Films have never been more diverse in their style and quality and, in my opinion, offer something for everyone. If you are looking for movies that focus on strong dialogue and character work those movies are still being made and are fantastic.

Mind if I pick your brain? I enjoy compelling era pieces, though some fantasy or sci-fi is also great. I dislike identity politics and infantilizing exposition. By contrast I enjoy subtle metaphor and stories with nuance.

My favorite films would include Das Boot, I Claudius, and Seventeen Moments of Spring. For something more contemporary, I also enjoyed The Expanse. Any recommendations? Films or series in any language are okay.

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Post by cld8483 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #224
cld8483 wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but that does not excuse Black actors being blasted with n-bombs and other slurs on Twitter and other social media, I'm not denying, much less excusing that. What I am saying is that such trolls are an irrelevant minority who's voices are amplified by those to whom nutjobs are a convenient excuse for their own failures. Black Panther sold many millions of tickets in America, and had maybe a few thousand 4chan-style…

For the targets of hate campaigns, even a few thousand nutjobs on the Internet is way more than enough to ruin their quality of life. People have been driven to suicide because of that. The worst thing are the stalkers that don't leave it at comments on Twitter but cross into real world intimidation (e.g. invasive photos, ordering pizzas, ...) to outright violence - you never know when they are gonna hit.

That's very unfortunate for the individual victims, but it cannot explain the under-performance of the targeted movies.

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Post by forevergreenyon »

pessimizer wrote: post #181
forevergreenyon wrote: post #114

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solution: don't give people that choice... this aligns all corporate-business incentives which are the only ones that matter when considering how to run stores. I'm really worried since it occurred to me that going forwards the only way to really change what any computer device does/can do is through app stores. No more programming languages; specially not 'open ones' for your own computer hygiene (or safety). heck,…

You say that now, but you'll love the Speakwrites. You can just talk into them and they'll write for you, with realtime correction of grammar and misinformation.

what worries me is that it'll realtime correct what I say into what I mean so perfectly that I won't be able to learn to do it on my own.

Once our capacity to 'self-correct' (which is the essence of healing) becomes unused we will begin to lose it.

I guess in such a world we all talk to our personal 'computers' and they communicate us to other humans translating everything automatically. sounds like we will be so free that we won't have to learn to talk to others, 'our' computers will do that for us, and so on until we don't know whether we are ourselves or our computers are us; perfectly assimilating us into the borg.

we will have accomplished a more perfected state of "freedom": we will have become free from having to be alive!!

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Post by throwaway743 »

axus wrote: post #223
joenot443 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell me about it. I'm an iOS engineer at FAANG, but I've been shipping my own apps since 2011. It's depressing that there's no longer a market for paid, high quality, ad-free, fully packaged apps and games. I actually interned at a mobile games studio for a summer and it was made clear to me what the profit model was: pander solely to the whales, ignore the free users. Something like 70% of our revenue came from 2% o…

The Netflix Games you can get for being a subscriber are decent quality with no ads. I imagine that will get cut at some point unless they've got a way to measure how much this benefits their subscription numbers. The Amazon Underground thing they used to incentivize their app store was pretty great also, the "Actually Free" games let you unlock everything in the App. That was discontinued in 2019. It's interesting h…

My assumption at first was that netflix would be crappy. Haven't looked at wm since they started appearing, but just the other day saw that Devolver is making games for netflix now. Pair that with seeing recent positive feedback, it made me second guess my wrongly held assumption

I'm guessing it's not a bad platform?

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