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Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Young men "are watching a lot of social media..." Possibly related anecdote: https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/zxsgcq/and...

>Their misogyny is honestly invading my brain to the point that I suspect every man I meet to secretly harbour at least some of their toxic opinions. I don't even want to bother dating anymore. Seriously? this is some extreme opinion and approach, really out of touch with reality. This sub is no different from the people described in this post, just the other side of extrema.

"Welcome to Reddit"

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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I sincerely believe that I am a respectful, reasonably attractive, healthy, financially successful and emotionally mature person.

I found dating so hopelessly difficult in America, that I decided to literally learn another language and relocate to another country. I felt like I had no future in America because of that. The difference where I am now is night and day. I have had to decline more dates and advances, which never happened before. Which I feel confirms my belief in the toxicity of dating in America.

In America, I had many women who were my close friends. They would regularly initiate conversations, share personal details of their life, and even stay at my home some days. In fact most of my friends were women. Although I have introspected on this greatly, and certainly have grown, I believe this is additional evidence that, perhaps, the problem is not me but the environment.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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I find this very surprising. The first sentence of the article states that about 60% of men are single, and only about 30% of women. There's about equal men and women, so that would mean that 30% of women are dating each other, or are in relationships with multiple men? That's discounting men dating men. I find that surprising.

Nothing surprising, yes this is mostly about top 10% of men dating several women each. Inequality in action.

That's ridiculous. Poly relationships are a tiny minority and even there most stick it to two partners - everything above that just takes way too much time to juggle next to a full-time job.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Is this surprising? My intuition, backed by approximately 0 data, is that there's a 5 to 10 year age gap preference, such that men prefer to be with slightly younger women and women with slightly older men. As a result, young men don't really have a dating pool. Once they hit 30, as long as they're not total wasters, women will take more interest.

it is definitely surprising...a big change in last 5-10 years. Women actually dont prefer a v large age gap--less than men and on the order of 2-3 years. Age def explains some of this statistic but isnt enough to explain it all. This is probably also result of slight harem effect and of people categorising relationships differently (man thinks he is single, woman thinks its monogamous etc).

Well, it's not exactly about age per se from either side. If we're going by the crass (but largely true) stereotypes, then men are driven by looks, and women (notwithstanding any "bad boy" dating inclination) are more looking for a protector/provider (i.e. maturity/money). Maybe with more men living with parents due to economy/housing/etc, this has an effect.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

#46
post #41

“Nearly half of all young adults are single: 34 percent of women, and a whopping 63 percent of men.” If the population is roughly 50/50 how does that add up? Are there lots of men in two relationships at once? Or are younger women primarily dating older men?

> Or are younger women primarily dating older men?

yes and each other

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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A man who is financially autonomous, practices basic hygiene and grooming, wears tasteful clothing, and approaches women with respect and manners has nothing to worry about. You don't need to make 6 figures, to be 6 feet tall, to have the body of The Rock or 2004 Brad Pitt's face. Having one interesting hobby is also a huge plus, even if it's as simple as hiking or jogging. You just need to be minimally interesting.…

Comments like these get tiring. Not only do young men have to suffer in silence but now they have to read stupid comments like this which are nothing more than gaslighting. The men in those horror stories that you mentions are not the ones having problem. They already have women in their lives.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing surprising, yes this is mostly about top 10% of men dating several women each. Inequality in action.

That's ridiculous. Poly relationships are a tiny minority and even there most stick it to two partners - everything above that just takes way too much time to juggle next to a full-time job.

Conscious poly relationships are a tiny minority and will probably always remain so. But i mean situations when women don't know that they are not alone. Tinder does it to them. It makes easy to find and "get" the best men. But there's a catch...

Plus, very frequently women get ahead of themselves imagining that they are in relationship while their men sees it as merely a sequence of gradually more and more effortless hookups.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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A man who is financially autonomous, practices basic hygiene and grooming, wears tasteful clothing, and approaches women with respect and manners has nothing to worry about. You don't need to make 6 figures, to be 6 feet tall, to have the body of The Rock or 2004 Brad Pitt's face. Having one interesting hobby is also a huge plus, even if it's as simple as hiking or jogging. You just need to be minimally interesting.…

False.

I do go out on weekends and approach women. Respectfully. While having basic hygiene and grooming and tasteful clothing. And I'm financially autonomous. And I work out regularly. And have a social circle. I'm perfectly average looking.

All that gets me is friends. Loads of friends. Women who I share a conversation with and have a laugh with. Never any attraction or meeting up at a later date.

Don't speak confidently about subjects you know nothing about.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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We need to produce less children, so that trend is perfectly good, isn't it? And the younger the woman the better, isn't that an obvious? What about friendship between men, this is your personal choice. I have more than one really close friend and I can not see myself without that kind of relationship.

Poes Law and all, I'll take your comment at face value. Where does your percieved need to produce less children come from? One could also argue that older people who are more settled in life make better parents. The article also points out a decline in male friendships. Having a relationship doesnt automatically exclude friendships and vice versa. Personally I think that choice has a similar influence on both. Approa…

> Where does your percieved need to produce less children come from?

Too stupid all the pro-children agitation. For example, why to produce less children and allow aborts? To stop human-caused crisises like global warming, plastic pollution, pollution of air. But why to produce more children and forbid aborts? To keep your nation rising, to keep traditional lifestyle, and to pay more taxes.

Any decent arguments lost in pro-children vs anti-children question?

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