sudo apt purge snapd
Don't forget to fuss around with package priority so it doesn't try to reinstall the snap when you're installing a deb package from another repo.
Ubuntu Flavors Agree to Stop Using Flatpak
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Re: Ubuntu Flavors Agree to Stop Using Flatpak
#22After using Ubuntu for 15 years, I moved to Pop!_Os (it uses Flatpak and no snap crap). Have been very happy with it.
But that's just Ubuntu with another repo added on top, with some different default package choices.
What does that even mean? Is Ubuntu just Debian with another repo on top? Either way, it doesn't change the fact that Pop ships with different functionality and is controlled by a different company that has made a lot fewer user-hostile choices than Canonical in recent years.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ubuntu ~always (around 12 years ago) try's to make a proprietary wallet-garden, and fail every single time. It's ridiculous and the complete wrong way to survive in the the Opensource space. The only thing they have at that point is the name Ubuntu.
I see Canonical as a slightly worse Red Hat - they both do their own thing for the sake of it being theirs (NIH syndrome to the max), Canonical just occasionally use a proprietary component as an upsell (compared to Red Hat that rely only on an Enterprise sticker as a differentiator). But fundamentally, what exactly is the difference? Both force their newly decided stuff on everyone and all associated distros - be it…
Well Red Hat goes it's own way, i am not always a big fan of it, but at least everything they buy and create gets opensource'd.
So yeah totally on your side here.
Re: Ubuntu Flavors Agree to Stop Using Flatpak
#24Sigh, Ubuntu would be my Linux distro of choice if not for Snaps. Still hoping they'll drop them at some point like they dropped Unity and Mir.
Debian has a lot of annoying defaults unfortunately so I always have to tweak it to suit my preferences. Still better than dealing with snaps though.
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#26A few days ago I wanted to update an Ubuntu laptop that hasn't been turned on for over a year. I had steam and brave browser installed using snap. Updating these two took as much time as updating everything else in the system (1.6Gb of downloads). Then I uninstalled brave, which took about 6-8 minutes. The laptop has NixOS today. NixOS has official GUI installer now https://nixos.org/download.html#nixos-iso
I've upgraded Arch machines after a year offline and it sounds like that was less painful. Ubuntu has been making some interesting choices lately.
>Ubuntu has been making some interesting choices lately.
Interesting like the Chinese Curse...true ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_ti...
Re: Ubuntu Flavors Agree to Stop Using Flatpak
#27Sigh , Ubuntu would be my Linux distro of choice if not for Snaps. Still hoping they'll drop them at some point like they dropped Unity and Mir. Debian has a lot of annoying defaults unfortunately so I always have to tweak it to suit my preferences. Still better than dealing with snaps though.
Same here. You forgot bzr and upstard in your list.
Re: Ubuntu Flavors Agree to Stop Using Flatpak
#28A few days ago I wanted to update an Ubuntu laptop that hasn't been turned on for over a year. I had steam and brave browser installed using snap. Updating these two took as much time as updating everything else in the system (1.6Gb of downloads). Then I uninstalled brave, which took about 6-8 minutes. The laptop has NixOS today. NixOS has official GUI installer now https://nixos.org/download.html#nixos-iso
I think Steam specifically does quite a bit more complicated stuff that can affect the rest of the system just to support games than most other pieces of software. It has its own built-in update mechanism, which I think makes it one of the few pieces of software I'd avoid using the package manager for.
Re: Ubuntu Flavors Agree to Stop Using Flatpak
#29As a computational biologist, I've been struggling with performance issues on Ubuntu for months, which have made it difficult to work efficiently. Despite Ubuntu's popularity in academia, R runs much slower on Ubuntu than on my personal computer running Arch. This has forced me to do my work at home, where I have better performance. It's disappointing that Ubuntu's limitations are often assumed to be universal to Lin…
> I've tried troubleshooting the issue, but haven't found a solution yet
That is very strange. I assume you’re not using the same hardware in your home computer. Without knowing your setup, it’s hard to say anything. Are you using the same BLAS and LAPACK libraries? You can check with `sessionInfo()`.
Re: Ubuntu Flavors Agree to Stop Using Flatpak
#30sudo apt purge snapd
Don't forget to fuss around with package priority so it doesn't try to reinstall the snap when you're installing a deb package from another repo.
And don’t forget to first uninstall every snap correctly and be sure that every snap virtual disks is unmounted else you will be left with random undeletable crap on your hard disk.
(to use firefox without snap, I wrote the instructions here: https://ploum.net/2022-04-05-firefox-ubuntu.html )