EPA orders Norfolk Southern to conduct all cleanup actions related to derailment

Post by panny » Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 5:49 AM UTC

ctrlaltdylan wrote: post #28

thepasswordis wrote: post #17

I'd like to see the head of the EPA, the transportation secretary, the executive team at NS, and anybody in the Biden administration who was involved in blocking the rail workers from striking move into East Palestine and live there, with their children. Don't want to do that because it isn't safe? Then buy these people all new homes. We can start the bidding at $1M per household. I cannot overstate the fury that I f…

I'm from the Northeast Ohio area, and also from a small town like East Palestine. The lack of response from Governor DeWine and malice to not declare a state of emergency is infuriating. This rhymes with Flink Michigan's water crisis, and Obama "drinking" the water in a publicity stunt: https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/posts-distort-facts-on-oba... Vote democrat and only see the elite placate the working class. Vote…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 8:48 AM UTC

mlindner wrote: post #92

hammock wrote: post #74

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I stand corrected. They did a great job and no one in East Palestine is sick

Correct. There is no one in East Palestine who got sick from this. There's many derailments throughout the country and chemical spills of other sorts have happened many times.

Post by xadhominemx » Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 12:29 PM UTC

panny wrote: post #250

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I stand corrected. They did a great job and no one in East Palestine is sick

>no one in East Palestine is sick Gastrointestinal bleeding https://twitter.com/StatusCoup/status/1626288682326958083 Family including three year old child diagnosed respiratory infections https://twitter.com/NewsNation/status/1625679079520325633

Post by Eigenstate » Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 4:09 PM UTC

xadhominemx wrote: post #34

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There are thousands of derailments every year. The bigger problem is not the derailment but the fact that they released and burned off the vinyl chloride in order to expeditiously clear the tracks and get them running again, at great health and environmental cost to the local community and even several states in the windshed to the northeast (PA, NY, VT)

They burned off the vinyl chloride because the combustion products are relatively benign, it was much safer to remediation personnel to ignite the chemicals in a controlled burn vs having them work around flammable chemicals for weeks, vinyl chloride is quite volatile and acute exposure to high concentrations of vinyl chloride vapor is dangerous, and they wanted to get everyone back in their homes (and yes, get the r…

Post by xadhominemx » Sat, Feb 25, 2023, 12:36 PM UTC

Eigenstate wrote: post #257

xadhominemx wrote: post #34

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They burned off the vinyl chloride because the combustion products are relatively benign, it was much safer to remediation personnel to ignite the chemicals in a controlled burn vs having them work around flammable chemicals for weeks, vinyl chloride is quite volatile and acute exposure to high concentrations of vinyl chloride vapor is dangerous, and they wanted to get everyone back in their homes (and yes, get the r…

> the combustion products are relatively benign If you consider phosgene and HCl to be "benign" based on their half life sure, but this assumes complete combustion. The cloud of visible black smoke emitted shows that clearly didn't happen. Partially combusted vinyl chloride monomer is some horrible mix of carcinogens that will contaminate the area for years.