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Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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Australia has been fine. Amongst the big software engineering hirers (Google, Atlassian, Canva, big banks, WiseTech, AWS) only Google Sydney is known to be doing layoffs. Zendesk (Melbourne) did layoffs last year, but this was small scale I think, and mostly driven by their company-specific troubles.

No layoffs at WiseTech.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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Australia has been fine. Amongst the big software engineering hirers (Google, Atlassian, Canva, big banks, WiseTech, AWS) only Google Sydney is known to be doing layoffs. Zendesk (Melbourne) did layoffs last year, but this was small scale I think, and mostly driven by their company-specific troubles.

Australia here also.

I'm a Tech Lead with a solid CV looking for a new gig. I'm finding it noticeably more difficult to get recruiter attention (let alone interviews) than I'd expected.

My gut feeling is that there are likely more candidates applying for any given job than there were late last year.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

#73

it should only affect USA. most companies depend on investor money (some to live, like tsla, uber. some because of bonuses tied to stock prices) those companies know that investor money is directly related to FED rate. if its zero, they get invested, if its high, people will put money to work elsewhere. they only lever they have to control fed rate is unemployment. they know they are hurting their business by laying…

Currently the US is at a 53-year low in unemployment.

There is definitely a re-balancing of the employment market. I assume its because of capital drying up. Tech workers labor is more to build things that pay off in the long run (in theory) I think the lower minimum wage jobs tend to be more operating costs.With interest rates rising there is less capital to build stuff that will take years to pay off. More focus on just keep things going as is by throwing bodies at the problem. Im not sure. Honestly I would have thought that tech would have come in more demand as salaries rose to make the people you are paying for more efficient.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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Australia has been fine. Amongst the big software engineering hirers (Google, Atlassian, Canva, big banks, WiseTech, AWS) only Google Sydney is known to be doing layoffs. Zendesk (Melbourne) did layoffs last year, but this was small scale I think, and mostly driven by their company-specific troubles.

No layoffs at WiseTech.

Ah WTG! How many soccer fields is the office now?

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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post #15

Japan here. It does not seem to affect much. Companies look based on their performance. Interestingly, we got more applicants from the US and Canada recently. I heard multiple times that people want a "stable" job over higher comp. Especially young developers. Culture shift? Some companies actually raised salaries recently because of the cost of living (See the news about Nintendo and others). However the salaries in…

>Culture shift?

Maybe one could call it accepting economic reality..

I don't recommend pure development as a career here for people who want to earn big money.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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it should only affect USA. most companies depend on investor money (some to live, like tsla, uber. some because of bonuses tied to stock prices) those companies know that investor money is directly related to FED rate. if its zero, they get invested, if its high, people will put money to work elsewhere. they only lever they have to control fed rate is unemployment. they know they are hurting their business by laying…

So your saying that at a bunch of publicly traded tech companies the csuite gathered in secret meetings and the conversation was?

CEO while shining his monocle: "what can we do to lower the fed interest rate?"

CFO: "We can fire a bunch of our employees"

CEO: "But Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 517,000 in January even with all the tech layoffs. We wont even make a blip "

CFO while twirling his mustache: "yes but us firing 10,000 will make us feel better at the country club and its sending a message that I'm positive the board of the Fed will listen to because we are very important"

CEO: "You're right, lets do it!"

Head of HR: "I'm asking this question while sitting on stolen land. How does firing 7% of the poors sound?"

Come on man.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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post #34

Poland. On one hand it’s a bit slower on the other Google here hiring like crazy, Netflix opening up an office, Shopify acquiring whole companies… To me it seems like big tech fires in the US then look for cheaper workforce elsewhere. Or maybe just a coincidence?

Can confirm for Cisco India.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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post #60

Interestingly no comments from anyone in India considering that is the largest tech market outside the US and where majority of jobs are moving to and India seems to be one of the few countries growing and projected to do well in this economic slump environment. I guess all their developers are busy working so no time for HN.

India:

Layoffs are happening more in the startups here. A lot of startups in the past few years hired like crazy and salaries also went through the roof. Established companies had tough time retaining people. Service companies are scaling down hiring, reducing the salaries for freshers and delaying onboarding.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/...

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