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Re: Show HN: Planlike.pro – New Estimating Tool

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Post by blowski »

lucideer wrote: post #55
PeterBarrett wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Responding to someone actively expressing interest in your product by offering them a demo definitely doesn't qualify as "turning it into a greasy sales pitch". They've clearly built the product to be a low touch experience so offering to run through it with someone is actually very pro-active of them.

> Responding to someone actively expressing interest in your product by offering them a demo definitely doesn't qualify as "turning it into a greasy sales pitch" Direct contact introduces social pressure into what was previously a hands off window-shopping/product evaluation experience. If a person is expressly looking for a sales contact for 1-to-1 demos (e.g. after filling out a contact form), then that may be ok,…

I’d much prefer to talk directly with a founder than watch a pre-recorded video.

Re: Show HN: Planlike.pro – New Estimating Tool

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Post by dang »

mdekkers wrote: post #13
avdept wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey and thanks for checking out our product. I'd like to run a quick demo for you to show some cool features that we have. How can I contact you?

> Hey and thanks for checking out our product. I'd like to run a quick demo for you to show some cool features that we have. How can I contact you? Maybe just do the video like what they asked for, so we can all make the assessment, instead of turning it into a greasy sales pitch. Not going to lie, this response put me off completely.

Hey, I understand the reaction (I'm sure many of us do) but can you please go easier on people who are sharing their work? There's no need to call names and it's against both the HN guidelines and the Show HN guidelines:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

Re: Show HN: Planlike.pro – New Estimating Tool

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Post by emmanueloga_ »

"Plan" makes me think of building/construction plans, even you describe it as a new "estimating" tool, so why not estimatelike.pro? (or any alternative that more closely connects the tool to the concept of "estimating").

For any given problem, I always think that the model (or "business logic") comes first, and then the GUI. I have no idea from you website what's the underlying model for your tool.

From browsing the home page it makes me think it this tool works kind of like "a frontend for a spreadsheet" ... but I'm just using my imagination, since you don't explain how it works or what it looks like.

Hope this doesn't sound too negative. Congrats on launching!

P.S.: the slideshow has to be the most cryptic I've seen in a long time... I can see tiny lil arrows left and right that are hard to click, next to "mysterious" integers that change every time I click the arrows. I'm guessing it may describe how many slides are to the left and right? Why not using the "de facto std" of showing one dot per slide, and highlight the current one?

Re: Show HN: Planlike.pro – New Estimating Tool

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Post by emmanueloga_ »

emmanueloga_ wrote: post #73

"Plan" makes me think of building/construction plans, even you describe it as a new "estimating" tool, so why not estimatelike.pro? (or any alternative that more closely connects the tool to the concept of "estimating"). For any given problem, I always think that the model (or "business logic") comes first, and then the GUI. I have no idea from you website what's the underlying model for your tool. From browsing the…

Addendum 1: I found an (open source! [1]) app that I think does a better job of explaining the underlying model and showing how it works, maybe it could work as inspiration? (or at least to compare/contrast).

Addendum 2: My preference would be a DSL to describe this kinds of problems, rather than a drag-and-drop, GUI interface. Advanced users could do away with the mouse completely, or even run the models from the command line or embedded in another app. Any given "fixed GUI" will always have limitations, but if you want to make it easier for non-power-users, you can also build a simple GUI on top of the DSL.

1: https://github.com/getguesstimate/guesstimate-app

Re: Show HN: Planlike.pro – New Estimating Tool

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Post by baremetal »

avdept wrote: post #60
vertis wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but you can't clone from something that doesn't exist. YOU have to provide things to clone from.

What do you think should be the basic templates for? Like software development project, travel planning. What else?

I would say you need to reach out to potential customers and ask them what use cases they would want templates for.

Re: Show HN: Planlike.pro – New Estimating Tool

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Post by haneefmubarak »

Congratulations on launching! A couple of quick nits that come to mind:

1. On the pricing page, you seem to use commas (',') as decimal separators despite the price in USD. In the US, a period ('.') is customary as a decimal separator while commas are used to separate groups of three digits, ie: 100,000.001

2. Pricing itself: free should just show "$0" without decimals; on that note, for a professional tool, flat numbers would be preferable. Also, the text should either say "per user per month" or "/ user / month".

3. Plans: I think you should limit the professional tier a bit more and decrease the price slightly; in other words: leave minimal branding on it, only allow say 10 new projects / month, don't give SSO, etc. Businesses that drive any meaningful revenue will have no issue whatsoever paying real money for critical features like no/custom branding, unlimited projects, Single Sign On (SSO is required at many companies), 2FA, priority support, custom billing (20+ users), etc

4. Plan pricing: if you follow #3 above, I'd say rename the professional tier to "Pro" and charge $7/mo; rename the business tier to "Enterprise" and charge $20/mo.

5. Contact: perhaps provide an email address where people can more easily get in touch with you if they don't want to use the form.

6. Put a video showing the product on the front page, it'll be helpful for users to better understand the utility of your software.

Hope this is all helpful and congrats again on launching!!!

Re: Show HN: Planlike.pro – New Estimating Tool

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Post by marcus_holmes »

avdept wrote: post #25
eisokant wrote: post #20

I see a lot of negativity on this post, I just wanted to say, "way to go!". Building and finally launching is an amazing achievement on its own.

Thanks for your kind words. Turns out building so much easier than launching

So, so, so much easier lol

Keep at it, it does get better over time.

It helps to not take the feedback personally. Everyone has an opinion, and they're usually shit. But flowers grow great in shit. Let it inspire you, not cover you.

Re: Show HN: Planlike.pro – New Estimating Tool

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Post by manuelmoreale »

no_time wrote: post #66

Do people really drop 8 bucks every month for things like this? I'm not trying to be hurtful or condescending to the authors. I just feel like there is such a large disconnect between me and the people I know vs these new SaaS products popping up everywhere, each asking for 5-15 dollars each month. ~10 years ago I was totally on board when these same products where a one time AppStore purchase in the 1-5 dollar range…

You’re not alone. And imo the reason is, as always, money. Once developers/companies figured out that they could earn a lot more using subscriptions everything turned into a sub.

Plenty of subscription, web based projects used to be standalone apps you were only paying for once.

But this is the world we live in unfortunately.

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