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Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

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Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

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post #10

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> They said if I only care about money I’m not a good fit for their culture Is this meant to convince you to take the offer, or is this just to vent off some steam before closing your file?

Hopefully the latter

Because that's "just" unprofessional or what?

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#132

Damn, the top comment on the article is about how you need to lie in tech interviews. How far have we fallen if we don't even have enough dignity to walk away from garbage tier companies who can't even put any real effort into hiring. Lying is not a solution, letting companies like Databricks die a slow painful death because they create toxic environments and all their programmers keep quitting is the solution.

Will hiring liars not eventually accomplish them same thing?

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#133
post #55

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I have never met a company that was able to reliably gauge performance. And would not put that against anyone unless they were intentionally fired and we're evasive about it.

// I have never met a company that was able to reliably gauge performance I have had the opposite experience. Every company I've worked for, the employee ranking matched my perception of that employee pretty well on average.

How did you know their ranking? Smells of circularity.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#134
post #8

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> Lying is not a solution Agreed. You should not lie in interviews. A common way of avoiding having to lie is registering your own consulting company after getting laid off. No resume gap! As far as if it fools recruiters, no idea. It's got to sometimes, right? I see it too often on LinkedIn for it to be useless.

>A common way of avoiding having to lie is registering your own consulting company after getting laid off. No resume gap! As far as if it fools recruiters, no idea. It's got to sometimes, right? I see it too often on LinkedIn for it to be useless. "Consulting" is the programmer equivalent of claiming "Entrepreneur" as a job title. Sure it exists, but it generally translates to "Unemployed".

In the company I'm currently working with, 60% of employees are contractors/consultants. On average they make 30% more than fulltime employees (but they don't have benefits so it washes out).

Myself, I've been either an entrepreneur (had a company with up to 12 employees for a few years) or doing consulting pretty much exclusively in the last 16 years.

So no consulting/contracting doesn't mean unemployed.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>A common way of avoiding having to lie is registering your own consulting company after getting laid off. No resume gap! As far as if it fools recruiters, no idea. It's got to sometimes, right? I see it too often on LinkedIn for it to be useless. "Consulting" is the programmer equivalent of claiming "Entrepreneur" as a job title. Sure it exists, but it generally translates to "Unemployed".

I’ve seen consultants make around £30,000 a month. Including at least one case where the person in question did that after being let go, consulting for the same people who were her customers when she was employed. Not too bad for unemployed people.

When my last employer went through a technical bankruptcy and had to fire some people, I volunteered because it would enable me to start my own business. I've been doing pretty well since then. Not 30k/month, but good enough.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#136
post #96

Damn, the top comment on the article is about how you need to lie in tech interviews. How far have we fallen if we don't even have enough dignity to walk away from garbage tier companies who can't even put any real effort into hiring. Lying is not a solution, letting companies like Databricks die a slow painful death because they create toxic environments and all their programmers keep quitting is the solution.

The Blind format rewards edgy comments. I don't think anyone would really advocate for lying during the recruiting process.

> I don't think anyone would really advocate for lying during the recruiting process.

Why?

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#137
This is, no question, absolutely terrible but the comments section on the post is a little wild:

"Asking for references after clearing interview was also Dik move tbh" (sic)

Is this a straight troll? Because if it's not, stop and think that through, will you?

I have no idea how many people have listed me as a referee over the years - quite a few (and enough that I know plenty of companies don't check references) - but if every referee is asked to provide a reference for everyone who has listed them for every job for which they pass CV/resume sift (or even some stage part was through the selection process), well, that's a lot of references.

Now, of course, you could write one reference for each individual and send that out to everyone who asks, but lots of companies have forms you have to fill out and they're not all the same. And you'd be doing this for a lot of jobs your applicant either wouldn't get or wouldn't take because they have competing offers on the table or are going through a process with multiple organisations.

So you know what the result would be? Referees won't give references.

This isn't a "dick move" (ah, sorry, I mean a "Dik move") by the hiring company but a sensible strategy to avoid wasting referees' time.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#138
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Blind format rewards edgy comments. I don't think anyone would really advocate for lying during the recruiting process.

Them: "why did you leave previous company?" You: "because I wanted a new challenge" We all know that in most cases thats a lie. But if you were to tell the truth you would stand a high chance of being punished.

And sometimes the company really does prefer people who know how to package uncomfortable facts in a more diplomatic manner. Nobody wants blatant liars, but giving a positive spin on things is a surprisingly valued skill.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#139
post #21

Damn, the top comment on the article is about how you need to lie in tech interviews. How far have we fallen if we don't even have enough dignity to walk away from garbage tier companies who can't even put any real effort into hiring. Lying is not a solution, letting companies like Databricks die a slow painful death because they create toxic environments and all their programmers keep quitting is the solution.

Is there any drawback to just leaving your last company active on LinkedIn, etc? I did that one time when I quit for a 4 month break, no one seemed to ask if I had quit yet and interviews went fine?

I sometimes don't update LinkedIn for years. Sometimes I get calls from recruiters who think I'm still at a previous company.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#140

It's funny how people blindly trust some anonymous person's post on none other than blind.

Right? I'm going to make a post saying Google rejected me because they saw I posted on HN and post that here. Apparently if it's on Blind it's the truth...
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