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> but it’s a big place and has many different neighborhoods. That's called sprawl.
LA's size is from annexing other cities and towns.
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The Hollywood sign debuted 100 years ago
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Re: The Hollywood sign debuted 100 years ago
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Instead of dismissing with derogatory terms, you should try to actually get to know these. You’d realize that Santa Monica is very different from West Hollywood, which is also different from Hollywood, K-town, etc. Even in the valleys, Sherman Oaks is very different from Agoura. OC would take years to really get to know as well. When you look at areal/satellite imagery, Santa Barbara to San Diego is basically connect…
> Instead of dismissing with derogatory terms, you should try to actually get to know these. Instead of dismissing an objective truth as derogatory, you should get to know the word. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_sprawl Los Angeles is the most infamous example, and you can look at its evolution here: https://la.curbed.com/2014/4/3/10121264/los-angeles-sprawl-h... Sprawl isn't a derogatory term, it's a descript…
If you look up the term “infamous”, you’ll quickly see it’s not a positive one. Neither is urban sprawl. Factual terms can have positive, neutral or negative connotations. The ones used happen to be negative.
If you are still in LA, try exploring more than your commute and routine life afford. You’ll be surprised. While not as much Victorian-era architecture has survived as in say San Francisco, there are many interesting pockets to see and neighborhoods to understand. Many generations of immigrants left their marks, with neighborhoods passing from one group to the next, yet their traces remain (such as ethnically specific churches/houses of worship or other long-lived institutions).
And if it’s not for you in the end, that’s great too - not everyone enjoys every part of the world. Explore and find what you like best.
Re: The Hollywood sign debuted 100 years ago
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Your own reference seems to confirm OP's point that sprawl, not density, is what increased. Relatively few places in the greater LA area have properly dense housing projects, and you just have to look across LA from vantage points along either Mulholland drive or Rancho Palos Verdes to see for yourself. Plenty of opportunity for high-rise and even more mid-rise projects, but nearly everything is low-rise. Thankfully…
That’s because people want to live in low rise buildings. The average person in California (and in the rest of the country) desires to live in a detached home that they own. It is not wrong to want that. However, it is definitely wrong to assume that high-rise apartments are “proper” density and that LA is doing it wrong. LA is the way the people live there want it to be. If you want high density and high-rise living…
If everyone wants to live in low rise buildings, why does the government ban building higher density buildings using zoning? If it’s so undesirable, nobody would move in so developers would have no incentive to build.
It’s not wrong to want your neighborhood to never change.
However I would argue that it is wrong to assume that every city currently has the “proper” density. Why was it ok for your house to be built but not for your neighbor to, say, redevelop their SFH into 3 town homes?
Re: The Hollywood sign debuted 100 years ago
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> Instead of dismissing with derogatory terms, you should try to actually get to know these. Instead of dismissing an objective truth as derogatory, you should get to know the word. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_sprawl Los Angeles is the most infamous example, and you can look at its evolution here: https://la.curbed.com/2014/4/3/10121264/los-angeles-sprawl-h... Sprawl isn't a derogatory term, it's a descript…
If you look up the term “infamous”, you’ll quickly see it’s not a positive one. Neither is urban sprawl. Factual terms can have positive, neutral or negative connotations. The ones used happen to be negative. If you are still in LA, try exploring more than your commute and routine life afford. You’ll be surprised. While not as much Victorian-era architecture has survived as in say San Francisco, there are many intere…
Please don't be so easily offended at factual terms used in an objective context (such as sprawl). It's unbefitting, and the pedantry is exhausting.
Goodnight.
Re: The Hollywood sign debuted 100 years ago
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Always makes me think of “The Rocketeer”. That probably pins me to a particular generation.
That movie was always strange to me as a person who watched it in kindergarten. It was in my memory peak cinema, with an amazing tie in of reusable cups from the best restaurant chain (Pizza Hut)that lived in my house for years later and I drank out of regularly. As a kid I loved pretending to be able to fly around the sky. But I've never met anyone in my generation that has ever seen it and even people older than me…
I’m from your generation and my only memory of the film was a lot of talking and very little action. Have you seen it as an adult? Curious how it holds up.
Wikipedia’s page is interesting, apparently its got a cult following now.
Re: The Hollywood sign debuted 100 years ago
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s because people want to live in low rise buildings. The average person in California (and in the rest of the country) desires to live in a detached home that they own. It is not wrong to want that. However, it is definitely wrong to assume that high-rise apartments are “proper” density and that LA is doing it wrong. LA is the way the people live there want it to be. If you want high density and high-rise living…
If this were the case, we'd see it in the zoning with a lot of parcels being underbuilt for what they are zoned for, since low density is preferred over high density. Instead, the city is developed to upwards of 90% of its zoned capacity. Its gotten to the point where no more units can be built, the zoning has to change in order to make it possible to permit more units. The high prices are all because the job growth…
Depends on where you are. I know of places near Sacramento where new suburban subdivisions are being built every year.
Re: The Hollywood sign debuted 100 years ago
#77Not the only Hollywood, and not the only Hollywood sign [1], thanks to some Irish humor.
[1] - https://www.thejournal.ie/hollywood-sign-wicklow-3867190-Feb...
Re: The Hollywood sign debuted 100 years ago
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> Instead of dismissing with derogatory terms, you should try to actually get to know these. Instead of dismissing an objective truth as derogatory, you should get to know the word. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_sprawl Los Angeles is the most infamous example, and you can look at its evolution here: https://la.curbed.com/2014/4/3/10121264/los-angeles-sprawl-h... Sprawl isn't a derogatory term, it's a descript…
If you look up the term “infamous”, you’ll quickly see it’s not a positive one. Neither is urban sprawl. Factual terms can have positive, neutral or negative connotations. The ones used happen to be negative. If you are still in LA, try exploring more than your commute and routine life afford. You’ll be surprised. While not as much Victorian-era architecture has survived as in say San Francisco, there are many intere…
Have you ever lived in a major city outside of LA? To not offend you, important things happen there, but it's not a large city globally (San Francisco is also an example of somewhere not that big but important)
Re: The Hollywood sign debuted 100 years ago
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LA's size is from annexing other cities and towns.
Sprawl Incorporated
If you consider just the original borders of the city from 1850 today, that sliver would probably be one of the densest cities in California with the most transit access per capita, and you'd be somewhere in this thread talking about how LA is doing it right.
That being said, at least the sprawl in a lot of LA county is basically done thanks to geography, bounded by ocean or protected mountains. Only one way to go now: up.
Re: The Hollywood sign debuted 100 years ago
#80In GTA Online, you can reliably win the "Open your parachute closest to the ground" challenge by jumping off the top of one of the letters of the Vinewood sign and immediately opening your chute as soon as you have left the platform at the top of the letter.