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Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

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Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

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Fun fact: in some jurisdictions such as New York and DC, this is illegal. It's called "discrimination against the unemployed". Check the laws of your state, the state you would work in, and the state the company is headquartered in to see if this may apply to you.

I just glanced at their career page and all the US based engineering and product management jobs are in the bay area. California doesn't have protected status for being unemployed.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#42

Damn, the top comment on the article is about how you need to lie in tech interviews. How far have we fallen if we don't even have enough dignity to walk away from garbage tier companies who can't even put any real effort into hiring. Lying is not a solution, letting companies like Databricks die a slow painful death because they create toxic environments and all their programmers keep quitting is the solution.

Interviews are all lies. Sure, some people would claim "It's just about putting your best foot forward and presenting yourself in the best possible light," but those people are such liars they lie about lying. Lying by admission is still lying.

God that's cynical. In the final round of my last FAANG interview after bumbling through part of it, at a very senior level, the interviewer flat out asked me "so uh, how long has it been since you did Android?", presumably due to my poor performance. I admitted I'd spent the majority of the last 2 years on iOS even though I'd done Android in the past too, and lo and behold, hired. Honesty and respect are valued where it counts, and if they're not, find another employer.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#43

Damn, the top comment on the article is about how you need to lie in tech interviews. How far have we fallen if we don't even have enough dignity to walk away from garbage tier companies who can't even put any real effort into hiring. Lying is not a solution, letting companies like Databricks die a slow painful death because they create toxic environments and all their programmers keep quitting is the solution.

Interviews are all lies. Sure, some people would claim "It's just about putting your best foot forward and presenting yourself in the best possible light," but those people are such liars they lie about lying. Lying by admission is still lying.

I like to quite Dave Barry: A resume is not just a piece of paper, it’s a piece of paper covered in lies. And it can be the difference between not getting a job, and not even coming close

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

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I think their HR culture may be a little toxic. When I told them their offer was not enough, they got very irate. They said if I only care about money I’m not a good fit for their culture of builders, and that I should watch out because there are lots of lay offs happening. It all left me with a very poor impression of them.

> that I should watch out because there are lots of lay offs happening.

As expected. They will all attempt to drive down salaries. It will probably work

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

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post #8

Damn, the top comment on the article is about how you need to lie in tech interviews. How far have we fallen if we don't even have enough dignity to walk away from garbage tier companies who can't even put any real effort into hiring. Lying is not a solution, letting companies like Databricks die a slow painful death because they create toxic environments and all their programmers keep quitting is the solution.

> Lying is not a solution Agreed. You should not lie in interviews. A common way of avoiding having to lie is registering your own consulting company after getting laid off. No resume gap! As far as if it fools recruiters, no idea. It's got to sometimes, right? I see it too often on LinkedIn for it to be useless.

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Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

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post #6

I think their HR culture may be a little toxic. When I told them their offer was not enough, they got very irate. They said if I only care about money I’m not a good fit for their culture of builders, and that I should watch out because there are lots of lay offs happening. It all left me with a very poor impression of them.

This is the type of toxicity I experienced at most companies in a top third world country (that shall not be named).

I worked there for about 3-4 years and people would try to make you feel bad or guilty for all kinds of things. Sharing you got laid off was an automatic disqualification from any interview. Lying your way through was the only way. Now I think it could have been systemic or cultural.

My advice to OP, you really dodged a bullet. This isn’t a healthy workplace culture that values you as a human being. Pat yourself on the back and move onwards and upwards.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't fool anyone.

Fools lots of people in my experience.

Some people think, "he says he was consulting, whatever, he's got the skills and seems like a good guy". Are they really fooled? Or do they just not care?

The real question is, will "consulting" fool the people who would reject you for a resume gap?

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#48

In a labor market where Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Microsoft haven't recently released collectively dozens of thousands of well-qualified workers into the pool, I suspect this situation might have ended differently. It's "buyer's market" out there now and employers can afford to be extra picky. This dynamic may not have applied to the poster's case since those other available resources would have been laid off as…

You do not compete with tech workers, you compete with developers.

More specifically, you compete with developers at your level of exp.

More specifically, you compete with developers at your level of exp and field of expertise.

Those layoff are meaningless.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#49
post #13

There's a missing bit of context here about what "laid off" actually means in this person's case. We are assuming it means a non-performance related reduction in force, but it may be something different. If I had to guess, I'd suspect the hiring committee found reason to suspect this person was laid off for performance / behavior. For example, perhaps their company has not conducted a large layoff, or is known for la…

> There's a missing bit of context here about what "laid off" actually means in this person's case. We are assuming it means a non-performance related reduction in force, but it may be something different. But that's basically the definition of a layoff; the elimination of roles from a company due to reasons unrelated to the performance of the laid off people (e.g. lack of work, economic conditions). If somebody lose…

if a company decided to reduce staff by X%, and they decide to factor in performance when deciding who to lay off…that’s still not being fired.

Re: Databricks counts being laid off as “red flag”

#50
This seems like a lot of discussion for a single report from a possibly-disgruntled (but definitely rejected) candidate, about a policy that was denied by multiple Databricks employees in the thread, who clearly said that Databricks has hired a number of people who were laid off recently.
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