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Re: CheatGPT

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Post by squeaky-clean »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #217
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just assuming the current pace of advancement will continue. Good text and image synthesis were basically impossible 2 years ago, and every time I check up on Github some huge new innovation has come out.

Is there really a basis for such an assumption? Don't returns tend to diminish with effort, rather than increase?

Technology tends to grow with a sigmoid curve. Extremely fast growth at the start, and then it slows down and eventually plateaus and new technology repeats the cycle. The only question is where on the curve are we for LLMs and AI in general?

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Post by hgsgm »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #213
netfortius wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The best interview question that will never die: "What's the weirdest bug you debugged? What made it weird?" @ChatGPT: Give me three sample answers to the following questions related to programming: "What`s the weirdest bug you debugged? What made it weird?"

"One time, I was working on a project where the UI kept freezing when a certain button was pressed. I spent hours debugging the code, but couldn't figure out what was causing the problem. Eventually, I discovered that the button's event handler was accidentally triggering an infinite loop that was consuming all the CPU resources, causing the UI to freeze. It was a weird bug because the symptoms were not immediately o…

Please don't put blockquotes in code blocks.

Re: CheatGPT

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Post by layer8 »

qprofyeh wrote: post #253

Idea: Ask the students to record themselves explaining their solution, and what lead them to it.

So you’ll grade them on how good their teleprompting skills are.

Re: CheatGPT

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Post by latency-guy2 »

kerpotgh wrote: post #96
ttul wrote: post #90

The best counter to ChatGPT cheating that I’ve heard of is to get students to orally defend their assignments in class. No computer is going to come to your rescue when you have to explain why you wrote the code you wrote. Encourage the use of ChatGPT and other tools. Put the emphasis on understanding what the code does and why. The tool may help to explain this to the student, but if so, that’s fantastic. No need to…

There isn’t any time for this in a 500 person public university classroom.

Well there is, vastly increase the barrier for entry into universities. Maybe those 500 person classrooms can now be the 25 person classrooms they were actually meant to be. :)

Re: CheatGPT

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Post by hgsgm »

gizmo wrote: post #172
mechanical_bear wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Oral exams also don't scale and raise obvious equity issues.” Not to be intentionally obtuse, but what are the obvious equity issues?

Exams can be anonymized when graded to reduce teacher bias. You can't do that with oral exams. In addition, you can't get a second opinion for an oral exam if you suspect you've been graded unfairly.

>In addition, you can't get a second opinion for an oral exam if you suspect you've been graded unfairly.

You can if the exam is recorded.

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Post by RhysU »

adastra22 wrote: post #241
kurisufag wrote: post #222

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>What we're seeing is the first instance, still very limited and imperfect, of AGI absolutely not. language-model text generation is actually about as non-general as it gets -- they are fundamentally incapable of understanding anything at all, ever. they can't do math, work through basic logic problems, or produce any output that isn't just an assumed logical continuation of the input.

Have you actually used any of these products? GPT et al are perfectly capable of taking knowledge from any one domain and applying it towards the solution of any other problem domain, through various kinds of data abstraction, reasoning by analogy, and other techniques similar to what humans do. It makes plenty of goofups along the way, just like humans do. But if your requirement is that it performs absolutely perfe…

To be completely ridiculous, we'll have AGI when it can convince a human to mate with it over any other human followed by raising its offspring to a successful adulthood. This is the game we're all playing.

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Post by layer8 »

Gunnerhead wrote: post #35

Reading this, I’m glad I didn’t have access to ChatGPT and co when I was in school. I was lazy and always followed the path of least resistance, but I wanted good grades so that meant doing the home work by hand after my Google-fu failed.

Now imagine those who came before who didn’t even have Google.

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Post by comment_ran »

throw310822 wrote: post #209

I don't understand how most of the comments here seem to be along the lines of "these interview questions are useless now" or "we need to rethink education, it hasn't kept up". These all seem absurdly myopic to me. What we're seeing is the first instance, still very limited and imperfect, of AGI. This is not going to make some interview questions obsolete, or give students more tools to cheat with their homework. It…

It's a good idea to think about some aspects of humans. Most people never be content with what they have.

Once progress was made, we get used to the old tool and begin to build new norms.

The pain is always there, you just run faster.

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Post by JohnFen »

throw310822 wrote: post #209

I don't understand how most of the comments here seem to be along the lines of "these interview questions are useless now" or "we need to rethink education, it hasn't kept up". These all seem absurdly myopic to me. What we're seeing is the first instance, still very limited and imperfect, of AGI. This is not going to make some interview questions obsolete, or give students more tools to cheat with their homework. It…

> What we're seeing is the first instance, still very limited and imperfect, of AGI.

None of this is AGI. This is Eliza on steroids.

Re: CheatGPT

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Post by matwood »

josh2600 wrote: post #123

So most interview questions like "make a binary tree" are dead. The best interview question that will never die: "What's the weirdest bug you debugged? What made it weird?" For posterity: https://www.gamedeveloper.com/programming/my-hardest-bug-eve...

> So most interview questions like "make a binary tree" are dead.

By this logic, those questions were already killed by Google Search.

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