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Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy
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Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
First they come for the sites that are 90/10 pirate to legit. Seems reasonable. Then 80/20. Then 70/30. Now they're getting the process streamlined. How far will they go? 20/80? 10/90? When will it be too much? When does it become un reasonable?
Slopes aren't always as slippery as you may believe. The point of this is that the site actively promoted and profited from piracy. This isn't Facebook with someone posting a few lines from a song, this is The Pirate Bay. Think of it like this: have you ever successfully argued to a cop that you only drive over the limit 10% of the time ? What matters is the deliberateness of the speed you were doing when you got cau…
The deliberateness has never once mattered when I was stopped for speeding. It didn't matter if I was aware of my infraction, or if it was intentional. Just the speed. It didn't matter if I only drove over the limit 0.001% of the time, I was still busted.
That's what I'm afraid of. A world where 1 user-posted file that someone claims is protected results in arrests and the total loss of my site.
Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It is, pure and simple, a piracy site full of pirated material. Yes, but it was also full of absolutely legal content uploaded by law-abiding users. Many people don't have the expertise needed to set up a file server and not everything is small enough to be attached to an e-mail. > I am also astounded that people on HN are calling this a legitimate business. As I understand, they had problems of DMCA compliance. If…
Unless they were paying their employees to knowingly submit pirated content, however I unaware evidence in support of this.
Don't say it then.
Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy
#154Maybe we can score a jury nullification, where they are found to be rightly accused, nonetheless no crime has been committed and are free to go.
Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy
#155Maybe we can score a jury nullification, where they are found to be rightly accused, nonetheless no crime has been committed and are free to go.
Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the thing, right? "Complying in a minimal sense" is still complying. It shouldn't matter if their hearts were as dark as pitch. We can't legislate the hearts of men. We can only use their actions in determining their fate.
Depends about the wording of the law, can someone have 1 person who has the job of fulfilling the DMCA requests even though the workload would require say 10 people to respond in a reasonable amount of time?
DMCA takedowns must be "expeditious", which I don't believe has yet been clearly defined by the courts.
Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy
#157SOPA and PIPA would help how? This appears successful without them.
I am assuming because it took 2 years to get to this point. With SOPA and PIPA in place there is no need for a takedown involving the federal authorities. Copyright holders can achieve the same much more quickly by using PIPA and SOPA to starve them of cash and audience.
Or in the case of foreign sites like Megaupload, the Attorney General can just say "We don't like you" and impose a censorship order on all US-based ISPs, ad services, and payment providers.
Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless they were paying their employees to knowingly submit pirated content, however I unaware evidence in support of this.
Don't say it then.
Good point my statement could be taken out of context. Would not have brought it up if it had not been heavily implied by AlexMuir and others, you can read my critical response to such:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3486750
Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy
#159Who needs SOPA when we have ICE?
ICE-SOAP
Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy
#160So what's their strategy now? -- A bunch of high-profile busts to raise the profile of the issue among the general public in an attempt to build support for SOPA and friends?