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Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy

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Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy

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post #52

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I'm more upset with the precedent than I am with the particular site. I've never made a DMCA request against them, but my understanding from the DoJ presser was that they did comply with the letter- They removed the links that were sent. They just didn't necessarily remove all other links to the same file. When you filed yours, did you follow legal procedure, and go through their registered DMCA agent with paper mail…

I followed the procedure to the letter - that was the whole point of the experiment. Do you honestly think they have a whole team of people diligently working through DMCA requests? Of course not - it's the foundation of their whole business. Now proving this is no-doubt going to be difficult. And prosecuting in front of a jury who have been pummelled with anti-SOPA sentiment for months is a nightmare. So I think the…

I'm interested in reading the data and procedures for your experiment. Where can I access it? I hate to say this, but until you provide your work; it's really difficult to believe anything you just wrote. Not to mention it's pretty impossible for the people at Megaupload to defend themselves. How do we know that you actually followed procedure? What do you define as proper procedure? What were the items in question?

Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy

#92
post #79

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Megaupload is Swizz based, and it went down.

Elsewhere in the thread, people are saying MU was from Hong Kong. Where do you see it as Swiss?

It was a bad joke on the fact that a purported owner of Megaupload is the artist "Swizz Beatz".

Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy

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At the risk of megadownvoting here... Megaupload never complied with DMCA requests - I made several as part of some research and never received any response. The site charged for access to, and provided advertising around, pirated content. The site paid people (users/staff - it's a fine line) to provide popular content. It went to extraordinary lengths to hide the identity of its operators. Now if people believe that…

First they come for the sites that are 90/10 pirate to legit. Seems reasonable. Then 80/20. Then 70/30. Now they're getting the process streamlined. How far will they go? 20/80? 10/90? When will it be too much? When does it become unreasonable?

Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy

#96

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Why is pirates in quotes? The article says these guys made over $150M in half a dozen years breaking international treaties and operating illegally. Stopping them is exactly what the FBI's job is. It's not like they're going after jay walkers.

Probably because: pi·ra·cy/ˈpīrəsē/ Noun: 1. The practice of attacking and robbing ships at sea. 2. A similar practice in other contexts, esp. hijacking. Is not the same as "making a copy of something in violation of copyright rules".

Get modern dictionary.

pi·ra·cy

noun /ˈpīrəsē/ 

piracies, plural

1. The practice of attacking and robbing ships at sea

2. Similar practice in other contexts, esp. hijacking - air piracy

3. The unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work - software piracy

Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy

#97
post #86

> According to the indictment, MegaUpload is responsible for at least $500 million in losses for the owners of the copyrights in question. I really can no longer stand such outlandish claims. Do they mean they would have sold 50 million more movies at US$ 10 each if the site didn't exist? Or do they think they'd have sold 500 million downloads for US$1 each? Or 5 billion for 10¢? In fact, they most probably got a cou…

+100

Tired of sources supposedly at the top of their profession (WSJ) who simply repeat these money claims and don't ask to see any sort of study to back them up.

They printed another claim from the Motion Picture industry claiming "100,000 jobs lost"....ridiculous number, and WSJ doesn't even ask where they get the number from

Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy

#98

At the risk of megadownvoting here... Megaupload never complied with DMCA requests - I made several as part of some research and never received any response. The site charged for access to, and provided advertising around, pirated content. The site paid people (users/staff - it's a fine line) to provide popular content. It went to extraordinary lengths to hide the identity of its operators. Now if people believe that…

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Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy

#99
post #88
post #44

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>Of course, it's now up to them to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this is true. Federal prosecutors have a 95 conviction rate for trials that go to jury. Almost everyone plea bargains.

> Almost everyone plea bargains. Yup, because the feds have amazing resources and the "law" is such that everyone is guilty of enough "crimes" to get 100 years. In other words, feds win a rigged game.

The system works! :)

Re: Megaupload down, FBI Charges Seven With Online Piracy

#100

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> Megaupload never complied with DMCA requests - I made several as part of some research and never received any response. Er, was this content that you held the copyrights to? That statement seems to imply otherwise, which wouldn't really be ok (or itself compliant with the DMCA).

That statement doesn't imply anything of the sort. I acted as agent for the copyright holders.

I had the exact same question as magicalist. So, even if you don't think that it implies not having the rights, it can certainly be read as such.

// edit: magicalist is the parent poster, not rorrr. Whoops.

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