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Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Post by testTED »

kortilla wrote: post #900
somewhat_drunk wrote: post #875

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Agreed. Every Sunday, I cook a large portion of something healthy, and store it in containers to eat throughout the week. This past week, it was chili with beans. The week before, chicken vegetable brown rice soup. The week before, chunky vegetable spaghetti sauce with whole wheat noodles. I've become pretty good at cooking, so it's always tasty, good food. I always get at least six large servings from what I cook, a…

I can’t stand to eat the same meal every day though. That’s the issue I’ve always had when trying meal prep. By Friday I’m ready to hang myself.

Make two or three things, freeze them, heat from frozen.

This is a research and effort issue.

Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Post by Animats »

oblio wrote: post #647
Animats wrote: post #465

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Last year, it was the Fat Controller from Thomas the Tank Engine.[1] [1] https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/19487821/thomas-the-tank-engine-...

On the other hand: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/rabbit-holes/the-repressiv...

Have You been Really Useful today?

Awdry and Dahl were from the days when men were men, women were women, and the sun never set on the British Empire. That's going to upset some people.

Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Post by orand »

PostOnce wrote: post #654

They left in wonky nose, crooked mouth, and stick out teeth, but took out the reference to fat? That's wild. The fat is arguably the only fixable thing, or at least the cheapest. You can't "just stop eating so much" and fix a wonky nose or stick out teeth. Calories aren't magic and hard to fathom. Normalizing being overweight is going to kill a lot of people early.

It's because universities have Fat Studies departments, but don't yet have Wonky Nose Studies departments.

Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Post by red-iron-pine »

oblio wrote: post #639
biztos wrote: post #498

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There are tons of books that actually are a product of the current time. Why not read those, and support living writers, instead of changing the meaning of older works? Seems like your problem here is easier to solve without messing with the other writers and potentially confusing your child about what, say, a Ronald Dahl book is actually like.

Because they might not know the modern books or because they might like the older books, except for 0.001% of their content.

Then you, like, realize it's an older book and deal with the fact that it may not 100% line up with your modern expectations.

Especially if it's just 0.001% of the content.

Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Post by wanderer2323 »

josephcsible wrote: post #876
jojobas wrote: post #610

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Except none of that is anywhere near good.

I think GP meant that the list was good as a source of information about the changes, not that the changes themselves were good.

In fact, the GGP should've called his list "nice", not "good".

Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Post by dang »

PostOnce wrote: post #654

They left in wonky nose, crooked mouth, and stick out teeth, but took out the reference to fat? That's wild. The fat is arguably the only fixable thing, or at least the cheapest. You can't "just stop eating so much" and fix a wonky nose or stick out teeth. Calories aren't magic and hard to fathom. Normalizing being overweight is going to kill a lot of people early.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34849710 and marked it off topic.

Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Post by dang »

SaltyGoodness wrote: post #924
dang wrote: post #888

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"Come on guy" and "people have been pointing it out to you for hours now" are rude and personal. Please make your substantive points without swipes. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . I didn't see personal attacks from tptacek. Some of his comments in this thread were edgier than I would like but I didn't see any that broke the site guidelines badly enough to warrant a…

"Come on guy" is "rude and personal"? A "swipe"? Shit. I bumped that down about three levels of rudeness before posting. That's my max. And people were pointing out tptacek's errors in understanding. How is that rude or personal to state? Tptacek wouldn't take any of it in, or respond to any of the points made. Instead he threw around actually rude and personal attacks. > The active ingredient there is "I see". I'm n…

Yes, what you posted counts as rude and personal by local standards and we ban accounts that do that repeatedly, so please don't do it again.

Re "twisting of people's comments" - that's your interpretation based on your priors. People make these judgments all the time—in fact they come up in nearly every argument as soon as emotions get activated. You're overestimating what moderation can do if you think we should impose our own such interpretations. And they wouldn't agree with your interpretations in any case (how could they?) so you wouldn't get what you wanted even if we did. No one would! In fact it would amplify the complaints about moderation by many orders of magnitude.

If someone is wrong or you think they are, the helpful thing to do is respectfully provide correct information. If you can't or don't want to do that, please just chalk it up to someone being wrong on the internet and walk away. The one who stops posting first in tit-for-tat exchanges is the one who wins anyway.

Also, HN conversations are basically never good once people start arguing about what each other is really saying, so when things take that turn, it's a sign that it's time to stop.

Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Post by foldr »

rootusrootus wrote: post #920
NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #865

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https://youtu.be/1it8-y4gWwg Activist cast and crew. Especially Elizabeth Montgomery and Dick Sargent. No mistaking it. Agnes Moorehead and Paul Lynde are gay icons from before anyone could be gay.

> Agnes Moorehead and Paul Lynde are gay icons from before anyone could be gay. That may be true, though neither one ever claimed to be gay, and both are long dead. Yes, it was perhaps a bad time to be gay. But it is still just speculation, and seems really unfair. If they died in the closet, then they earned the right to stay there forever.

The person you’re replying to didn’t say that either of those people was gay and that claim wasn’t central to their point. In Paul Lynde’s case, however, it would be silly to pretend otherwise.

You could also consider deleting your ‘perhaps’.

Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Post by fennecfoxy »

double2helix wrote: post #606

I'm a gay man and I think we are going to far with this PC nonsense. I had a hard time growing up in the 90s knowing I was different and being tormented by my peers, so I'm happy to see gay "normalized" in current pop culture more because I think it teaches the younger generation to accept themselves and others. However I feel that it's going to far, for example I started reading a novel the other day but gave up a t…

Also a gay man & I disagree that we have "normalised" gay in current pop culture.

We really haven't. It used to be that gay characters were written as overly feminine, by straight writers bc we were being used as a joke. Actual gay writers in the industry now also write...exactly the same femmy characters into stuff (as someone working on theatre/media industry is quite likely to be a more fem gay).

What I want to see more of before I'm happy: young, interesting gay characters that demonstrate their love for one another without it being a Big Deal, that don't get killed off or only play a minor role.

Atm all the gay characters I see are: * Older men * All femmy, not just average dudes * Get killed off/removed from the story quite quickly * Are labelled as "gay character" but they aren't really shown being gay (making puppy dog eyes at cute guys, or having a boyfriend, etc).

Also lots of shows take shortcuts by having a lesbian character (which is also great to have), but gay men are still far less accepted by society/in media at this point. People would rather see two women kiss on screen than two men.

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