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Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by rezbull »

echelon wrote: post #138
kodah wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This follows the form, hype, and presentation of so many crypto pitches I've heard.

Crypto didn't do anything. AI can give anyone the power to make music, art, film, and media without the time, talent, and institutional capital investments. AI can automate people's jobs and reduce cost structures to accomplishing work and business objectives. That's the difference, and the evaluation criteria is easily decided by the free market. Did it do a good job? Will it get hired again to repeat similar work?…

Hi ChatGPT

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by janeway »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #23

Appreciate the effort but these demos have really quickly become so boring. If you can design an entire website with the AI tools, it appears its almost certainly a website you don't need to create in the first place. Either it has already essentially been made by somebody who actually understood and cared about the code, or it's such a trivial mix of stuff you're better off making a squarespace site or whatever. At…

Here is my example. In the last two weeks I have rewritten, from scratch, one of my genomics pipelines which can analyse 1000 clinical exomes in a few hours to return candidate genetic causes of rare disease.

* 42 scripts/programs.

* 3694 lines of code.

* Several languages.

* Process raw fastq data up to germline variant calling.

* Using high-performance computing cluster.

* Process vcf data into clinical variant interpretation.

* Options for custom filtering strategies.

* Statistical analysis and logs.

* Replaced several mainstream tools that are difficult to manage.

Final results:

1. This work was ~6-10x times faster.

2. I probably would not have rewritten this better version as it would have taken too long.

3. Instead of getting stuck at any difficult impasse I can get context-specific alternatives and testable example code.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by mike_hock »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #23

Appreciate the effort but these demos have really quickly become so boring. If you can design an entire website with the AI tools, it appears its almost certainly a website you don't need to create in the first place. Either it has already essentially been made by somebody who actually understood and cared about the code, or it's such a trivial mix of stuff you're better off making a squarespace site or whatever. At…

I love how every person on the VR website is wearing a completely different headset. It's just haphazardly throwing together vague associations of "VR." It doesn't understand anything.

It's an amazing achievement of AI research, but we're not anywhere close to AI replacing humans in any kind of engineering discipline.

A giant leap for AI but a step backward for man. We're gonna see code quality decline due to people thinking they can let the AI do it. Most importantly, we'll probably see an uptick in vulnerabilities.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by mike_hock »

echelon wrote: post #132
beepbooptheory wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are definitely right that most code is banal and glue, and that is indeed why the models, or this one at least, seems to be best suited to regurgitate it and change the names of your variables. I guess I still don't see your main point though. There are plenty of tested and compliant style frameworks out there that have figured this stuff out, and they will do it better than whatever Stackoverflow example the AI…

I'm getting tired of intelligent people dumping on one of the most incredible advances our field has ever seen. I was cynical of everything - smartphone incrementalism, slow pace of biology developments, social media. It didn't look like the hope and promise of the 1950's and 60's jet packs and robots would ever pan out. You'll probably find historical comments I've made on HN criticizing Ray Kurzweil and his like fo…

> These are just the cards I'm willing to show now.

When you're showing me one flush card, the other one is a rag and you're trying to get me to fold. If you had the flush, you could show me both cards and get me to fold for sure.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by jack_pp »

echelon wrote: post #132
beepbooptheory wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are definitely right that most code is banal and glue, and that is indeed why the models, or this one at least, seems to be best suited to regurgitate it and change the names of your variables. I guess I still don't see your main point though. There are plenty of tested and compliant style frameworks out there that have figured this stuff out, and they will do it better than whatever Stackoverflow example the AI…

I'm getting tired of intelligent people dumping on one of the most incredible advances our field has ever seen. I was cynical of everything - smartphone incrementalism, slow pace of biology developments, social media. It didn't look like the hope and promise of the 1950's and 60's jet packs and robots would ever pan out. You'll probably find historical comments I've made on HN criticizing Ray Kurzweil and his like fo…

> You'll probably find historical comments I've made on HN criticizing Ray Kurzweil and his like for their "bullshit Singularity" (as I used to call it).

> I feel wrong about my assessment and finally have hope for the future

Maybe it should make you scared for the future. Read https://musingsandroughdrafts.com/2023/02/17/my-current-summ...

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by ilaksh »

Towaway69 wrote: post #114
ilaksh wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not true about self driving research plateauing. Tesla, Waymo and Cruise have all made significant progress in the last five years. What other categories of high tech reached their absolute peak right when everyone started to notice them? We can extrapolate because there are clear trends. And a long history of inventing new things when we hit a bottleneck. It's like someone looking at a car in the early 1900s…

Ironically cars have basically not changed since the 1900s: 4 wheels, a steering wheel and a polluting oil-based engine. Sure we're now (100 years later) moving to computer steering and rare-earth elements batteries but the 4 wheels remain! We have peaks in technology, then tend to profit before the innovation restarts - when profits sink.

They have changed. The basic utility is to go from point A to point B. They now do that about 3-10 times faster and more comfortably and reliably than they did when they started.

If generative AI gets 4 times better than will matter a lot.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by ilaksh »

paxys wrote: post #125
ilaksh wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not true about self driving research plateauing. Tesla, Waymo and Cruise have all made significant progress in the last five years. What other categories of high tech reached their absolute peak right when everyone started to notice them? We can extrapolate because there are clear trends. And a long history of inventing new things when we hit a bottleneck. It's like someone looking at a car in the early 1900s…

> What other categories of high tech reached their absolute peak right when everyone started to notice them? Just in the last decade – crypto/blockchain/web3, VR/AR, metaverse, smart glasses, 3D TVs, foldable phones, modular phones, chatbots, hyperloop, package delivery robots/drones. Every single one of these areas had all the top tech talent behind it, billions in VC funding, flashy demos and outsized public hype,…

Blockchain technology never stopped continuing to improve. Same with VR/AR, the hardware keeps getting more comfortable and more capable. Package delivery drones have yet to be deployed at a large scale but are gradually increasing usage.

Arguably there have been many successful metaverses including things like Second Life, World of Warcraft, Minecraft and Roblox. The VR part of metaverse hasn't taken off yet due to comfort, expense and poor mixed reality capabilities. And we are still waiting for large scale open metaverses not controlled by a company. That probably will come eventually once we get better hardware and wider adoption more people understand the concept of the metaverse.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by krashidov »

janeway wrote: post #142
beepbooptheory wrote: post #23

Appreciate the effort but these demos have really quickly become so boring. If you can design an entire website with the AI tools, it appears its almost certainly a website you don't need to create in the first place. Either it has already essentially been made by somebody who actually understood and cared about the code, or it's such a trivial mix of stuff you're better off making a squarespace site or whatever. At…

Here is my example. In the last two weeks I have rewritten, from scratch, one of my genomics pipelines which can analyse 1000 clinical exomes in a few hours to return candidate genetic causes of rare disease. * 42 scripts/programs. * 3694 lines of code. * Several languages. * Process raw fastq data up to germline variant calling. * Using high-performance computing cluster. * Process vcf data into clinical variant int…

Which specific tools have you been using? Just a general dialogue with chatGPT or a are you using CoPilot?

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by kanyethegreat »

apsurd wrote: post #55
ux-app wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If you work for a large company most of your day is spent understanding domain specific problems then executing on that. ... which involves fetching some data, displaying it, maybe doing some basic arithmetic and then shuffling it off to a DB? drudgery. bring the machines on so we don;t have to deal with this nonsense any more.

i'm curious what you think is worthy of humans to do? often in life i find myself reminding myself that everything is just something to do. serious question, what do you then distinguish as enlightened pursuits vs not, for lack of a better word. edit to add: i painted my family's garage in my teens, manually. and i'm thirties now and when i go to my family home i see the painted garage. it never leaves me, the value.

> i'm curious what you think is worthy of humans to do?

It depends on what you value. If you value efficiency, automation, thinking deeply about new problems, then gen AI will likely free you from what you consider tedium. However, that’s not to say that those are the only valuable characteristics. Painting your family home is a noble, rewarding thing. If you enjoy the work, then it’s worthy.

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