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Re: Self hosting in 2023

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Post by michalwarda »

schemescape wrote: post #37

I'd never heard of Coolify, but it looks like what I've been searching for, i.e. an all-in-one solution for hosting stuff on a VPS (or Pi). But the docs [1] say it requires a minimum of 30 GB of disk space. Does anyone know if that is accurate? What could possibly be taking up that 30 GB if all I want to do is host a static site and maybe Deno or Node? I'm fairly certain I set something similar up in the past on a mu…

I have a 32 GB SD card it's running on it no problem. It currently takes like 4 GB (it can store previous docker images for speeding up builds and allowing auto rollback).

Re: Self hosting in 2023

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Post by threeseed »

layer8 wrote: post #34
threeseed wrote: post #15

One thing to be mindful of is security. The last you want is for your setup to be compromised, be used to send spam/botnets and then getting perma-banned from your ISP. I would argue it's a lot less risky just to put your static site on S3/Github etc.

Yeah, I would decouple it from any residential ISP, but use a $4 VPS to still self-host. That also removes the need for a DDNS setup. Given some basic Linux skills, all you need is SSH plus nginx+certbot on Debian with unattended-upgrades or similar, that you can point your domain to.

Would recommend Tailscale over SSH.

Really easy to setup/use and means you don't have to open up ports like 22 which are constantly being port scanned.

Re: Self hosting in 2023

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Post by fm2606 »

nucleardog wrote: post #35
fm2606 wrote: post #24

I self host and use a RPi 3B+. Actually I have a total of 3B+ but only one is actually doing anything for the website. I have my database running on a RPi 4b with 4gb. I could easily consolidate to a single Pi but early on I had different plans for each one but just keep 'em running for no good reason. I'm fortunate in that I have a static IP. Initially I was using NOIP and it worked great but then noticed my IP addr…

I do similar with the VPS and reverse proxy, but use a wireguard tunnel from my home device to the VPS to allow nginx to hit my local device instead of forwarding a port. Avoids punching a hole in your local network, avoids issues when your home IP changes, and ensures nothing ends up going over the internet in the clear.

Ah very nice. I may do that instead. Thanks for the tip

Re: Self hosting in 2023

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Post by Entinel »

I really wish someone could convince me self hosting is worth it but more often than not it just seems like busywork. Do you really need to self host your static website? There is no real privacy gained and probably some security lost. Then you get into hosting more complicated apps, email, etc, and making sure you can access them from anywhere at any time and it just doesn't seem worth it to me.

Re: Self hosting in 2023

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Post by michalwarda »

Ayesh wrote: post #36

I'm still not convinced that self hosting is cheaper though. Where I live, both the electric grid and Fibre connections are unreliable, and the ISP charges about $3/month for a static IP. Assuming 2.5W for a RPi, it takes 1.8kWh a month, costing around $0.25 for electricity. This also has the downside of using residential IPs, having to deal with CGNAT/NAT if the ISP has no static IPs, exposing your home IP, slow dis…

As mentioned in the blog post. I wouldn't probably put a "real" production app on it so easily. You can replicate the same effect and more on a service like hetzner. But if you have a Raspberry Pi laying around and like 2-3 hours. At least a blog is enough! And the amount of hardware related things you'll learn is massive.

I've been running a few web bootcamps in the past. Explaining the hardware part through cloud admin panels is extremely hard. Having a physical thing right in front of you is spoko simple. Much easier for people to *click.

Re: Self hosting in 2023

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Post by schemescape »

michalwarda wrote: post #41
schemescape wrote: post #37

I'd never heard of Coolify, but it looks like what I've been searching for, i.e. an all-in-one solution for hosting stuff on a VPS (or Pi). But the docs [1] say it requires a minimum of 30 GB of disk space. Does anyone know if that is accurate? What could possibly be taking up that 30 GB if all I want to do is host a static site and maybe Deno or Node? I'm fairly certain I set something similar up in the past on a mu…

I have a 32 GB SD card it's running on it no problem. It currently takes like 4 GB (it can store previous docker images for speeding up builds and allowing auto rollback).

Thanks! That sounds much more reasonable. I wonder why they put 30 GB as the "Minimum required resources"...

Re: Self hosting in 2023

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Post by michalwarda »

Entinel wrote: post #45

I really wish someone could convince me self hosting is worth it but more often than not it just seems like busywork. Do you really need to self host your static website? There is no real privacy gained and probably some security lost. Then you get into hosting more complicated apps, email, etc, and making sure you can access them from anywhere at any time and it just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I had a huge paragraph in the article about decentralization and how important it's in my mind for the future of internet but I've scrapped it because it felt like I was a blockchain guy even without mentioning it. So I'll make it simpler.

Honestly I just feel awesome seeing those blinking lights in my room and thinking it's sending packets to other people.

Re: Self hosting in 2023

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Post by AdrienPoupa »

Self hosting is really cool. However when it comes to static hosting, apart than keeping your data at home and having fun setting up servers, I don't really see the point when there's so many free good options. I use CloudFlare Pages for my blog, their integration with GitHub is flawless and you get to host your website at edge for free.

When I need to host dynamic content, another good option is CloudFlare Tunnels (I promise I'm not sponsored by them, their products are good is all :)), so you don't have to do shenanigans updating DNS records on the fly, and more importantly you don't have to compromise your network opening up and forwarding ports.

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