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Open source solution replicates ChatGPT training process

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Re: Open source solution replicates ChatGPT training process

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Yeah, for the worse. We will have a ton of bullshit at scale. And the web will be done for.

I hope the arms race makes us smarter. We're going to need AI to sift through all the BS. My hope is that once we're drowning in deepfakes daily, the average user will come to the conclusion that they can't believe stuff they see, and will realize neither what the read nor hear. The transition will be rough.

> We're going to need AI to sift through all the BS.

Yes, that's the only way to deal with it. Humans alone can't cope.

Re: Open source solution replicates ChatGPT training process

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"hitting 100 million monthly active users 2 months after its launch". I'm deeply suspicious of that number. It came from Similarweb, who track these things through analytics gathered from browser extensions. I trust this article more: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/03/technology/chatgpt-openai... "But two months after its debut, ChatGPT has more than 30 million users and gets roughly five million visits a day, two p…

Can someone tell me what the hell they use ChatGPT for? I tried it a few times and it always confidently gave me wrong results to basic things. What is this thing supposedly “disrupting”? Is it really just marketing cranking out metric tons of spam blogs?

Re: Open source solution replicates ChatGPT training process

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post #19

"hitting 100 million monthly active users 2 months after its launch". I'm deeply suspicious of that number. It came from Similarweb, who track these things through analytics gathered from browser extensions. I trust this article more: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/03/technology/chatgpt-openai... "But two months after its debut, ChatGPT has more than 30 million users and gets roughly five million visits a day, two p…

Can someone tell me what the hell they use ChatGPT for? I tried it a few times and it always confidently gave me wrong results to basic things. What is this thing supposedly “disrupting”? Is it really just marketing cranking out metric tons of spam blogs?

I'm using it for crud, i.e. generating insert sql from c++ classes. Knows how to do acid compliance it seems with multiple tables and foreign keys, saving lots of time.

It's also the better english to finnish translation than gtranslarw. Also copywriting as certain genres are highly repetitive.

Re: Open source solution replicates ChatGPT training process

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post #19

"hitting 100 million monthly active users 2 months after its launch". I'm deeply suspicious of that number. It came from Similarweb, who track these things through analytics gathered from browser extensions. I trust this article more: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/03/technology/chatgpt-openai... "But two months after its debut, ChatGPT has more than 30 million users and gets roughly five million visits a day, two p…

Can someone tell me what the hell they use ChatGPT for? I tried it a few times and it always confidently gave me wrong results to basic things. What is this thing supposedly “disrupting”? Is it really just marketing cranking out metric tons of spam blogs?

So many things. A lot of them for personal entertainment, but increasingly for useful other stuff too.

I used it to help brainstorm talk titles and abstracts for a talk I was proposing the other day. What I ended up submitting was entirely written by me but was heavily influenced by the ChatGPT conversations.

https://til.simonwillison.net/macos/sips - I used it to figure out how to convert webp to PNG on macOS, and learned about an entirely new built-in command.

I often use it as a thesaurus - "what's a good word / term for X?"

I'm self-employed and a journalist asked me for my job title, which I don't have. So I brainstormed some ideas with ChatGPT.

I pasted in the output of a SQLite "explain query plan" query and asked for an explanation - which helped me figure out enough to write a section of this TIL: https://til.simonwillison.net/sqlite/subqueries-in-select

This is just from the past few days.

Re: Open source solution replicates ChatGPT training process

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It's nice, but a far cry from gpt-3

NLP Cloud has a finetuned version of neoX which works incredibly well.

Thanks for the tip - I watched this demo video and yes, it does look like a very impressive model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHJh9KJNyE4

Re: Open source solution replicates ChatGPT training process

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Finally, an open-source equivalent to ChatGPT emerging out of the AI euphoria will begin to extinguish the hype out of OpenAI's ChatGPT moat, just like how GPT-3 and DALLE-2 were almost immediately disrupted by open-source models as well. This (and other open-source AI models), not 'ChatGPT', 'DALLE-2', etc is what will change the AI landscape for everyone, permanently forever.

"just like how GPT-3 ... immediately disrupted by open-source models as well." Which open source alternatives to GPT-3 have you seen that most impressed you? I've not yet found any that are remotely as useful as GPT-3, at least for the kinds of things I want to use them for (generating SQL queries from human text, summarizing text, that kind of thing)

In answer to my own question, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHJh9KJNyE4 GPT-NeoX-20B instruct-trained looks very impressive.

Re: Open source solution replicates ChatGPT training process

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post #19

"hitting 100 million monthly active users 2 months after its launch". I'm deeply suspicious of that number. It came from Similarweb, who track these things through analytics gathered from browser extensions. I trust this article more: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/03/technology/chatgpt-openai... "But two months after its debut, ChatGPT has more than 30 million users and gets roughly five million visits a day, two p…

Can someone tell me what the hell they use ChatGPT for? I tried it a few times and it always confidently gave me wrong results to basic things. What is this thing supposedly “disrupting”? Is it really just marketing cranking out metric tons of spam blogs?

The 30M figure likely includes a lot of students having ChatGPT do their homework for them. :)

I've used ChatGPT for programming aid. I've started writing some Python packages. I haven't written Python in a long time, it doesn't "flow" easily for me. ChatGPT has been helpful here for scaffolding some code.

It often gets things wrong -- but I know enough to recognize when it's gone off the rails, and then nudge it in the right direction.

A concrete example: I wanted to do an iterative breadth-first traversal of a tree. I asked ChatGPT to produce it. It produced a correct implementation, albeit a recursive one. After being reminded that I wanted an iterative version, its second attempt was the right thing.

This is a pretty small thing, I guess! But for me, it was neat to be able to specify something at a higher level and have the computer sort out the details.

Re: Open source solution replicates ChatGPT training process

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Is the term "ChatGPT" being used in place of GPT-3 here? Is this thing actually replicating the GPT-3 training process? The thing that makes ChatGPT interesting (over regular GPT-3) is the RLHF process, but this article doesn't seem to touch on that at all, unless I've missed something.

GPT-3 has been publicly covered in scientific publications. Same as GPT-2, and GPT. Those are all pre-trained models, where GPT is the abbreviation of Generative Pretrained Transformer. Transformers have been invented in 2017 at Google Brain [1].

-> https://medium.com/walmartglobaltech/the-journey-of-open-ai-...

GPT-4 is around the corner, and it's allegedly 100x more powerful than it'd predecessor.

-> https://medium.com/geekculture/gpt-4-100x-more-powerful-than...

[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762

Re: Open source solution replicates ChatGPT training process

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope the arms race makes us smarter. We're going to need AI to sift through all the BS. My hope is that once we're drowning in deepfakes daily, the average user will come to the conclusion that they can't believe stuff they see, and will realize neither what the read nor hear. The transition will be rough.

> We're going to need AI to sift through all the BS. Yes, that's the only way to deal with it. Humans alone can't cope.

Somehow bombs don’t actually prevent other bombs. People always hope that the offensive tech could be used defensively, but defense is never perfect and even a few that get through can wreak destruction.
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