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Domestic violence hotline calls will soon be invisible on your family phone plan

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Re: Domestic violence hotline calls will soon be invisible on your family phone plan

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I'm glad that some people are thinking about details like this. It feels like the world is increasingly indifferent to scenarios a typical tech worker has not experienced. Someone actually had to stop and think outside of their bubble, or at least convince their colleagues to think outside of theirs. It took some effort to get that approved, no doubt.

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Re: Domestic violence hotline calls will soon be invisible on your family phone plan

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post #9

I'm glad that some people are thinking about details like this. It feels like the world is increasingly indifferent to scenarios a typical tech worker has not experienced. Someone actually had to stop and think outside of their bubble, or at least convince their colleagues to think outside of theirs. It took some effort to get that approved, no doubt.

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What's frustrating to me about your comment is that you and the person you're replying to seem to basically agree on the pertinent points, but you've chosen to make an irrelevant, unfalsifiable semantic argument.

Re: Domestic violence hotline calls will soon be invisible on your family phone plan

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What's frustrating to me about your comment is that you and the person you're replying to seem to basically agree on the pertinent points, but you've chosen to make an irrelevant, unfalsifiable semantic argument.

You are completely correct. :) Sorry mine also frustrated you.

Re: Domestic violence hotline calls will soon be invisible on your family phone plan

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post #10

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Do those plans even exist anymore?

They're common in Germany, since calls and SMS are rarely used. Mobile data for WhatsApp is far more useful.

I wouldn't say it's common in Germany. I just checked some providers and most of them just have one line saying "Phone and SMS flatrate to all German networks" in their plans. The only differentiation between plans these days is how much data is included.

Re: Domestic violence hotline calls will soon be invisible on your family phone plan

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do those plans even exist anymore?

They're common in Germany, since calls and SMS are rarely used. Mobile data for WhatsApp is far more useful.

You have to really be pinching pennies to get one of those plans. Even on Aldi Talk, you'd only pay €3 more per month for unlimited calls and SMS than you would for a data-only plan.

https://www.alditalk.de/produktinformationsblatt

Re: Domestic violence hotline calls will soon be invisible on your family phone plan

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> Service providers must also “omit records of calls or text messages to certain hotlines from consumer-facing call and text message logs,” so that abusers cannot see when survivors are seeking help.

I can see some of the other part of the Safe Connections Act being new, but were calls to a domestic violence hotline showing up on consumer-facing cellular (and POTS) records for the last 20+ years?

Re: Domestic violence hotline calls will soon be invisible on your family phone plan

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On cell phone plans that still charge per minute of talk, how is this going to work? Will those carriers make domestic violence hotline calls be free and not count against your total minutes? If not, then won't the resulting discrepancy between the amount of the bill and the number of minutes for each individual call on it make it obvious what happened?

The obvious response to this is to make calls to DV hotline services free.

The cost to carriers would be negligible.

Re: Domestic violence hotline calls will soon be invisible on your family phone plan

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Domestic abuser: "I tallied only 748 minutes of calls across these 9 pages, and after subtracting the 500 included minutes in your plan, we were only charged an additional $12.28 instead of the expected $12.40. Explain yourself!"

If you think domestic abusers won't go to these lengths, you must not know any victims.

I'm guessing some would, some would if they knew to, many won't.
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