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Re: Nextcloud and OpenBSD = <3

#21

Post by muyuu »

powersnail wrote: post #5
thedriver wrote: post #2

Nextcloud is fantastic. I'm personally running it on a Debian 11 server. I like the web-ui more than for example onedrive or gdrive, and it's not even that hard to setup.

Do you run it at your home or on some VPS? If the latter, and if you don't mind my asking, where do you find affordable storage for your VPS? The biggest hurdle for me to use Nextcloud is that attaching a large storage to a VPS seems to be quite a bit more expensive than using Google drive, etc. My current VPS is on DigitalOcean, which asks for $100/month for 1TB storage. (To be fair to DO, the storage is SSD, but in…

what are the drawbacks for you to run it in a home server?

Re: Nextcloud and OpenBSD = <3

#22

Post by V__ »

JamesAdir wrote: post #20
V__ wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a VPS for web hosting, but not enough storage for my Nextcloud needs. As mentioned by others, Hetzners Storage Box [1] has great value. I hooked up the latter to the former using Nextclouds External Storage and it works flawlessly. You could even think about running Nextcloud locally on a RaspPi and using this method to hook up cloud storage. [1] https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box [2] https://docs.nex…

Hetzner are great but you can't encrypt Hetzner Storage boxes. How do you keep your setup secured?

Most of my files are private but not sensitive, so I basically just trust them for those. A few sensitive files, which don't fit on the encrypted VPS, are encrypted classically using Veracrypt. I hope Nextcloud will support encrypting externally in the future, but for my use case it's not a big deal.

Re: Nextcloud and OpenBSD = <3

#23

Post by trvz »

raybb wrote: post #14
kenniskrag wrote: post #6

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I use hetzner storage. You can attach it as external storage and costs 4 EUR https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box?country=de

There's also Herzner storage share with is slightly more pricy at about 5 EUR but they manage nextcloud for you. https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share Although, as I understand it they don't actually financially support nextcloud. If you want hosted nextcloud that sends money back to development https://thegood.cloud/ or similar would do it.

> Although, as I understand it they don't actually financially support nextcloud. If you want hosted nextcloud that sends money back to development https://thegood.cloud/ or similar would do it.

This is plain stupid. If you want money to arrive at a developer, just send some yourself.

As for Nextcloud GmbH, it looks like they don't even want donations: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/is-there-a-paypal-donation-acco...

Re: Nextcloud and OpenBSD = <3

#24

Post by KronisLV »

powersnail wrote: post #5
thedriver wrote: post #2

Nextcloud is fantastic. I'm personally running it on a Debian 11 server. I like the web-ui more than for example onedrive or gdrive, and it's not even that hard to setup.

Do you run it at your home or on some VPS? If the latter, and if you don't mind my asking, where do you find affordable storage for your VPS? The biggest hurdle for me to use Nextcloud is that attaching a large storage to a VPS seems to be quite a bit more expensive than using Google drive, etc. My current VPS is on DigitalOcean, which asks for $100/month for 1TB storage. (To be fair to DO, the storage is SSD, but in…

> If the latter, and if you don't mind my asking, where do you find affordable storage for your VPS?

Hetzner gives you 1 TB for Nextcloud for ~5.20 Euros/month: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share

They also have their own storage offering, 1 TB is ~3.90 Euros/month: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box

Contabo gives you an 800 GB VPS for ~10.50 Euros/month or a 1600 GB VPS for ~17.50 Euros/month: https://contabo.com/en/storage-vps/

Time4VPS also has a storage VPS, which is about on par with Contabo's pricing, but has discounts for first month. Right now they have a deal where you can get a 1 TB VPS for 26 Euros/year (a bit over 2 Euros/month), though renewals are regular price: https://www.time4vps.com/storage-vps/?affid=5294#annually (affiliate link, I use them for regular VPSes)

In comparison, a 1 TB HDD costs around 40 Euros where I'm from, way cheaper than most other options in the longer term, even with a backup drive or two added into the equation. Uptime remains a challenge then, though, as might data correctness long term and time spent validating whether backups actually work as expected (and keep doing so).

Re: Nextcloud and OpenBSD = <3

#25

Post by clvx »

I wish nextcloud architecture could move to a more stateless version. It was a huge step forward allowing envars to setup the installation and using a S3 for objects as using it with containers was a PITA. There are still post installation items that don’t allow to just move the server easily. Instanceid, version and others are still generated in config/config.php. Plugins are another one. It’s definitely a great product.

Re: Nextcloud and OpenBSD = <3

#26

Post by uselpa »

michaelteter wrote: post #17

I wanted to like Nextcloud, and I made a real effort two different times (hetzner metal servers with attached storage). Both times it would eventually run into sync problems, where it would just get stuck and refuse to keep things in sync. I had the same problem with Onedrive (it was worse). Tresorit was very good and reliable and theoretically very secure, but it was some financial cost. The last thing I tried is Ap…

I am using both Nextcloud and iCloud, and Nextcloud has been syncing much faster every time it mattered (i.e. when sharing files with the family).

Re: Nextcloud and OpenBSD = <3

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Post by JamesAdir »

V__ wrote: post #22
JamesAdir wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hetzner are great but you can't encrypt Hetzner Storage boxes. How do you keep your setup secured?

Most of my files are private but not sensitive, so I basically just trust them for those. A few sensitive files, which don't fit on the encrypted VPS, are encrypted classically using Veracrypt. I hope Nextcloud will support encrypting externally in the future, but for my use case it's not a big deal.

Thanks for the answer. So you've created a VeraCrypt file on your nextcloud folders?

Re: Nextcloud and OpenBSD = <3

#28

Post by JamesAdir »

muyuu wrote: post #21
powersnail wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you run it at your home or on some VPS? If the latter, and if you don't mind my asking, where do you find affordable storage for your VPS? The biggest hurdle for me to use Nextcloud is that attaching a large storage to a VPS seems to be quite a bit more expensive than using Google drive, etc. My current VPS is on DigitalOcean, which asks for $100/month for 1TB storage. (To be fair to DO, the storage is SSD, but in…

what are the drawbacks for you to run it in a home server?

I'm not the OP but for me it's connectivity (my home connection can be flaky at times) and maintaining a server with all the updates. I'd rather do it on shared hosting.

Re: Nextcloud and OpenBSD = <3

#29

Post by nazgulsenpai »

JamesAdir wrote: post #13
nazgulsenpai wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just set mine up two days ago, VPS for NextCloud and storage is a RPi with a SATA SSD in my closet at home with Wireguard connecting the two. The NextCloud data folder pointed to NFS on storage. Its not the fastest solution, but it does work and gives my RPi a purpose.

How do you protect this setup? Have you used any kind of encryption?

I use Wireguard from the Pi to the VPS. It was really simple to setup.

Re: Nextcloud and OpenBSD = <3

#30

Post by noAnswer »

michaelteter wrote: post #17

I wanted to like Nextcloud, and I made a real effort two different times (hetzner metal servers with attached storage). Both times it would eventually run into sync problems, where it would just get stuck and refuse to keep things in sync. I had the same problem with Onedrive (it was worse). Tresorit was very good and reliable and theoretically very secure, but it was some financial cost. The last thing I tried is Ap…

I had that too. It seems to be a problem with the client though. Deleting the local config and reconnecting helped. (Two times in idk ~6 years is still bearable.)
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