IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink

> This future satellite constellation infrastructure will allow for synergies with private sector to develop commercial services and provide with high-speed internet and communication in all EU territory.

Satellite internet isn’t great for speed. Europe is also so densely populated that full 4g coverage is totally doable. I think satellite internet is cool, but it doesn’t serve a real need and I expect this project to flounder.

Also, notice that an entire continent has less ambitious goals and merely tries to keep up with one guy.

Re: IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink

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Post by sys42590 » Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 9:55 AM UTC

Sounds fantastic, but if we look at the history of the EU's Galileo GNSS [0], massive delays can be expected.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)

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Post by kybernetyk » Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 9:55 AM UTC

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Post by inglor_cz » Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 9:57 AM UTC

kybernetyk wrote: post #6

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This is due to massive, shaping French influence on the EU.

There are many relatively market-friendly nations in the EU, especially in the eastern half, but the EU is mostly an extension of the French model and without the British, it really started leaning heavily into the protectionist bureaucratic model. The UK acted as a brake of sorts on those tendencies and its influence is sorely missed, at least by people like me. (Certainly the bureaucrats rejoice.)

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Post by inglor_cz » Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 10:00 AM UTC

sys42590 wrote: post #5

Sounds fantastic, but if we look at the history of the EU's Galileo GNSS [0], massive delays can be expected. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)

There are entire palettes of fantastically sounding plans to be found in Brussels. Don't get your hopes up.

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Post by throw009 » Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 10:04 AM UTC

inglor_cz wrote: post #7

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This is due to massive, shaping French influence on the EU. There are many relatively market-friendly nations in the EU, especially in the eastern half, but the EU is mostly an extension of the French model and without the British, it really started leaning heavily into the protectionist bureaucratic model. The UK acted as a brake of sorts on those tendencies and its influence is sorely missed, at least by people lik…

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Post by gizmo » Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 10:08 AM UTC

inglor_cz wrote: post #7

kybernetyk wrote: post #6

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This is due to massive, shaping French influence on the EU. There are many relatively market-friendly nations in the EU, especially in the eastern half, but the EU is mostly an extension of the French model and without the British, it really started leaning heavily into the protectionist bureaucratic model. The UK acted as a brake of sorts on those tendencies and its influence is sorely missed, at least by people lik…

Britain after Thatcher got a rich financial center while the countryside impoverished. The market-friendly changes didn’t produce the promised tide that would lift all boats. I recognize that the UK produces more market-friendly rhetoric, but outside the handful of wealthy city centers the UK is shockingly poor.