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Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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Here's a good list of changes. Most are about removing any references to ugly or fat. But also other strange things like changing the author's Matilda likes to read to include Jane Austin and John Steinbeck, not calling people crazy, swapping screeching to annoying, removing brothers and sisters to favor "siblings" and using "folks" instead of "ladies and gentlemen" https://twitter.com/incunabula/status/1626860237104…

Joseph Conrad and Rudyard Kipling wrote favorably about colonialism; they were replaced with more agreeable authors. Use of gendered language is marginalizing to nonbinary people. It's easy to figure out why these changes are being made in particular, once you take a position of empathy.

You should take your own advice and not force your perspective on other people.

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Well yeah. It already is taken as fact in many circles that the primary purpose and intent of the American legal system and government was the subjugation of minorities. While I think there is some value and truth in critical analysis of race, gender, or governance that challenge prevailing assumptions, many people have lost the plot and positive context entirely. They mistake the exceptions for the rule and the flaw…

> It already is taken as fact in many circles You can really say this about anything. Not that I am disagreeing with you, but it’s a dubious way to frame anything you wish to state.

Sure, I agree it isn't very specific, but I wasn't trying to make a general claim, just provide a hopefully recognizable example of revisionist history.

I think it would be different if I was claiming that most people believe this narrative, or something like that.

I could have pointed to some specific academics who feel this way, but I'm not sure that is any more convincing. Basically any example can be ignored with a no true scottsman argument if someone is obstinate instead of curious.

Re: Hundreds of changes made to latest editions of Roald Dahl's books

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I’m just gonna point out that this is exactly why I have a reasonably large library of printed books in editions I’ve read.

I'm so annoyed, I'd been excited to order a brand new collection of all of Dahl's works and now I've got to go find used collections, which are going to get snapped up or thrown away by capitulating librarians and bookstore workers.

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Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered... Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right. - George Orwell

HN loves bringing up Orwell in contexts that are not comparable. This is bad, but not in an Orwellian way.

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I see it as a totalitarian measure, rather than leaving it to school librarians to make those choices, while listening to the expressed feedback and requests from the students and their parents at that school.

That's fine until librarians or teachers consistently get it wrong. A school librarian's discretionary power isn't intrinsic, it is granted conditional on its proper use. I'm sure there are many topics that if a teacher or librarian presented to your children you would move to remove their discretionary power. The debate is merely on what topics cross that line.

> I'm sure there are many topics that if a teacher or librarian presented to your children you would move to remove their discretionary power

I would first consult with them, and, if necessary, go to the school board if I thought they were being unnecessarily intransigent (or too ideological). In other words, I much prefer working from the bottom up, i.e. from the local community level, rather than having prescriptions imposed from the top down.

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>At the foot of the end wall of the big barn, where the Seven Commandments were written, there lay a ladder broken in two pieces. Squealer, temporarily stunned, was sprawling beside it, and near at hand there lay a lantern, a paint-brush, and an overturned pot of white paint. The dogs immediately made a ring round Squealer, and escorted him back to the farmhouse as soon as he was able to walk. None of the animals cou…

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The most cogent analysis I've seen is that the changes were made by the owners of the books in order to sell more books.

From the article: > The Dahl estate owned the rights to the books until 2021, when Netflix bought them outright for a reported $686 million, building on an earlier rights deal. The American streaming service now has overall control over the book publishing, as well as various adaptation projects that are in the works. I suspect they're hoping netflix will make movies based on his books. Netflix seems pretty sensitive…

> Netflix seems pretty sensitive to twitter opinions

Do they? They sided with Chappelle. They gave Norm Macdonald a talk show.

I think Netflix does a fairly good job trying to cater to everyone, woke and not.

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Yeah; I don’t know why it’s taken people so long to realise this. I know it seems to people on Twitter that everyone is on twitter, but that’s really not true. About 10% of people in the USA use Twitter daily - which is a huge number of eyeballs. But that still leaves the remaining 90% of people choosing instead to enjoy our short time on this planet. If anything, I wouldn’t be surprised if the outrage over Hogwarts…

Because being cancelled isn't a real thing. It's usually just scoundrels angry they received the slightest bit of pushback. Dave Chapelle constantly whines that queer people are trying to cancel him while he cashes $20m Netflix checks on a regular basis.

Being cancelled is very much a real thing, since a lot of people have, e.g., spineless bosses who will immediately capitulate to the Twitter mob's demands.
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