The pricing is eye watering. 2,100 for 5gbps? Att fiber is $200 per month where I am w a static block.
"BGP at home": getting a DIA circuit installed at home
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Re: "BGP at home": getting a DIA circuit installed at home
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Downside is if you want to use it locally at home you get extra latency due to the tunnel. I guess it depends on how your tunnel is set up, but shouldn't you be able to add a static route to your rack on the "home side"?
If your use case is just to use the unique space locally then you don't need BGP at all but the second you want to use it elsewhere you incur the latency of going through the tunnel.
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#23Re: "BGP at home": getting a DIA circuit installed at home
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Downside is if you want to use it locally at home you get extra latency due to the tunnel. I guess it depends on how your tunnel is set up, but shouldn't you be able to add a static route to your rack on the "home side"?
If your use case is just to use the unique space locally then you don't need BGP at all but the second you want to use it elsewhere you incur the latency of going through the tunnel.
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood - I see what you mean now.
I thought you meant "use the services hosted on your rack at home" (thus my suggestion), not "use the IP addresses you own at home".
Re: "BGP at home": getting a DIA circuit installed at home
#25The pricing is eye watering. 2,100 for 5gbps? Att fiber is $200 per month where I am w a static block.
Residential internet service is oversubscribed and doesn't have an SLA.
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#26But why?
Besides the stated reason, there's also this: >(as of this writing, VZ was pricing 50Mbps commited @ $455/mo; 100Mbps @ $661/mo; 1Gbps @ $999/mo; 5Gbps @ $2,099/mo; and 10Gbps @ $3,099/mo). Ten gigabit is not yet a common residential internet service in North America. If that's what you want, this would be the only way to get it. I've occasionally daydreamed about buying a condominium near one of the Seattle Internet…
> If that's what you want, this would be the only way to get it.
10Gbps PON is available from AT&T Fiber in some markets, and lower tiers (5Gbps) are coming online from Google Fiber in other markets. In SoCal, I've seen billboards for 10Gbps AT&T Fiber, for example. Obviously you don't get an SLA with a residential connection, though, and I highly doubt that many customers operating at full capacity will be problem-free.
Re: "BGP at home": getting a DIA circuit installed at home
#27The pricing is eye watering. 2,100 for 5gbps? Att fiber is $200 per month where I am w a static block.
ATT home fiber is typically 32 ONT sharing 1 OLT, doesn't come with the SLA, and doesn't let you assign your own IP space to the connection (along with some other knobs BGP lets you turn).
Of all of that the bulk of the price increase is them running the dedicated fiber so you can go from 32:1 to 1:1. It costs a lot to not have the same physical setup as the rest of your neighbors.
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#28The pricing is eye watering. 2,100 for 5gbps? Att fiber is $200 per month where I am w a static block.
Residential internet service is oversubscribed and doesn't have an SLA.
Oversubscribed means different things to different groups of people. (I'm replying to people in general, and not to the commenter above me)
To an ISP, it means that a customer could exeperience a shortage of service, but that a group of customers would have to simultaneously utilize the infrastructure. ISPs try to keep a ratio of customers to service where this isn't likely to happen, or for discount providers, that this happens only during peak times. Ultimately it is a balance of customer attrition.
To a customer, it sounds like they are being deprived of what they are paying for. (Residental customers agree to a best-effort service typically - the opposite of agreeing to a specific service level). Even with ample service capacity, it is often the first factor considered when any component in the aggregate network is failing or underperforming.
I sure do not miss being a residential ISP. But I carry with me just enough sympathy for service providers that I am "always a blast at a party".
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#29The pricing is eye watering. 2,100 for 5gbps? Att fiber is $200 per month where I am w a static block.
Residential internet service is oversubscribed and doesn't have an SLA.
don't worry, there's no way the techs at Comcast could figure out how to prioritize speedtest.net in their QoS tables.
Re: "BGP at home": getting a DIA circuit installed at home
#30Why two NIDs?
I'm curious about this too.. it seems like it might be some intricacy because of Verizon business and Verizon telecom being two different entities, but I am curious if there is a technical reason for it too.
The guys on the ground and their dispatch are CWA unionized employees. The businessy guys are not.
Verizon is like a state or federal government agency. Massive complex bureaucracy that nobody really understands. As one of the ultimate legacy businesses they have all sorts of crazy settlements, agreements, tariffs, etc and segment their businesses around them.