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Merit based hiring would never be 1:1, but 2:1 is enormous. I would expect something like 1.2:1 in either direction.
> Merit based hiring would never be 1:1, but 2:1 is enormous. I would expect something like 1.2:1 in either direction. Aren't you now doing the same thing that's being criticized, by simply picking a ratio that "looks" good to you regardless of the underlying groups?
Females more likely than males to be elected in US scientific societies
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#112National hiring experiments reveal 2:1 faculty preference for women on STEM tenure track - https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1418878112 Even where I work, I'm under a lot of pressure to hire more women engineers to the point we bend rules and relax standards. There is a ton of societal and economic pressure with slogans like "the future is female". I'm a mother and I do not think this is a good thing. I have a so…
Please answer honestly. If you never had a son, would you view things the same way? Would you have viewed things the same way when you were younger, before you had a son?
Re: Females more likely than males to be elected in US scientific societies
#113National hiring experiments reveal 2:1 faculty preference for women on STEM tenure track - https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1418878112 Even where I work, I'm under a lot of pressure to hire more women engineers to the point we bend rules and relax standards. There is a ton of societal and economic pressure with slogans like "the future is female". I'm a mother and I do not think this is a good thing. I have a so…
I feel you hold a different view then most women. Very different. In fact your views can get you attacked by other women and a few men who completely buy into the whole mainstream story. It's ok for a woman to say what you say in a forum of mostly men, because as a woman you have more credibility than men themselves to speak out against extremist feminist policies. Please answer honestly. If you never had a son, woul…
Watching a part of you grow up, learn, smile at you, its just something beyond what any words can describe. You want to protect them. You watch them closely. You slowly realize just how different your son is from yourself and your daughter. I still remember the first day he got a sports injury, and was trying so hard to not cry in front of his friends.
Motherhood changed my life and opened my eyes a lot more.
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Greater intellectual superiority because of the % entering college? College is a status symbol and women are buying into it more than males. It shows men are more independent thinkers and feel confident they can get along without a degree. It also because entry level jobs in fields women are interested in require college where men have more options in the trades. As women are dominating college entry over men a colle…
>College is a status symbol and women are buying into it more than males. Isn't this a sexist statement? You're saying that women are more into superficial status symbols than males. This clearly isn't true and is sexist. What isn't sexist at all is to say women are, from a biological perspective, intellectually superior to men. This is the only logical and scientific conclusion when you look at everything from an an…
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I feel you hold a different view then most women. Very different. In fact your views can get you attacked by other women and a few men who completely buy into the whole mainstream story. It's ok for a woman to say what you say in a forum of mostly men, because as a woman you have more credibility than men themselves to speak out against extremist feminist policies. Please answer honestly. If you never had a son, woul…
If I never had a son, I would have never understood what boys go through. It's so fundamentally different than girls, it's hard to believe. Watching a part of you grow up, learn, smile at you, its just something beyond what any words can describe. You want to protect them. You watch them closely. You slowly realize just how different your son is from yourself and your daughter. I still remember the first day he got a…
When I was younger and older male mentor told me this. He told me that many people don't know this but while society paints a picture of men being bumbling fools trying to crack the code that is this mysterious creature called a woman, the truth is actually the other way around.
Men understand women better than women understand men.
He said that both sexes are equally complex and very different but the cultural stereotype occurs because men have a strong desire to understand a woman while women simply view men through the most stereotypical lens possible without caring to understand anything deeper.
He told me that it is a mans job to take care of a woman, to look after her needs and to be her rock. He told me to never to fully reveal the full truth of what a man is to a woman... that a man is in actuality a creature who is sensitive... with wants and needs and vulnerabilities. He said not to reveal any of this to another woman because the relationship a man has with a woman is more like a father to a daughter, the father cannot reveal the full reality of what he is to his daughter because it is frightening to her to know the full truth of what he faces outside of her world. If part of this truth is revealed during courtship the woman will find this aspect of a man despicable and disgusting, and moves on to another man that appears stronger.
He also said to not get confused when a woman says she wants a sensitive man. He stated that she doesn't want a "sensitive" man, mainly what she is saying is that she wants a man "sensitive" to her needs.
He believed that women simply don't care to understand men for what they really are. They don't want to and they aren't suppose to either. I think by suppose to he meant that this is biology... standard human behavior.
He did tell me that what he told me was just a generality. He said occasionally I might encounter a woman who truly understands the psychology of men and he said usually that woman is a mother who has a son and has seen what her son has to go through growing up. Your son hasn't fully grown up yet, so I don't know how much of this applies to you.
If he were telling this to you, I think he would say that an aspect of your son lives inside your husband but your husband and every man is in actuality hiding this aspect from you and their respective spouses.
Would you say this is true? Would a lot of what's going on with modern society simply a lack of understanding?
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In the US: * The majority of suicides are male * The majority of homeless are male * Men are less likely to go to college * The vast majority of prison inmates are male * The vast majority of workplace deaths are male * The majority of violent crime victims are male * The vast majority of police brutality victims are male Now if we were talking about say India it would be a different story, and this is not to suggest…
> But as a society we simply ignore the gendered nature of these atrocities. For some reason we can shrug off another human being's suffering when it's a son or a brother, far more easily than when it's a sister or daughter. The roots are biological, men are the dispensable gender, given that a single man can potentially impregnate several women. On the other hand if a female is lost, her potential progeny is also lo…
Re: Females more likely than males to be elected in US scientific societies
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>College is a status symbol and women are buying into it more than males. Isn't this a sexist statement? You're saying that women are more into superficial status symbols than males. This clearly isn't true and is sexist. What isn't sexist at all is to say women are, from a biological perspective, intellectually superior to men. This is the only logical and scientific conclusion when you look at everything from an an…
Recently laid off from misinformation team at twitter?
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> I have a son and I caught him and friends gravitating to Andrew Tate like content. He's so young, and he already feels that society is hostile against him. Society is hostile against him. Anti-male prejudice is absolutely everywhere. Andrew Tate is a get-rich-quick grifter and possibly a criminal, but he’s right about some things.
Maybe but his family isn't. I'm trying my best to protect him, which is why it was so shocking when I checked his internet usage.
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This might be my management role leaking, but in my experience you are being far too rational. Humans are emotional beings first and foremost, then rational. I do think society is hostile to him, but I don't want him to become a reactionary, or a culture warrior. I'm his mother, I want him to be happy. I won't sacrifice my son to some abstract societal goal no matter how noble it might seem. This is why I cannot agre…
Ok? I don't think society is overall hostile to men. I'm a man. I think I might have noticed. I'm not telling you to sacrifice your son to some abstract goal. I'm telling you that his happiness depend on things more meaningful than a gender label. Your son doesn't have to attach his identity to an oppressor class that is ending, which surely would impact his happiness. He can instead attach it to the end of oppressio…
Your left wing ideology is so extreme that it's causing you to hopelessly contradict yourself, are you aware of that? It looks ridiculous.
You already said "I'm perfectly fine with things like the future is female" - that's objectively a very hostile statement against men but because you yourself are a part of the woke misandrist social movement you keep trying to rationalize it. So you say things like "Society isn't generally hostile against your son; its hostility is to patriarchy" which is meaningless ideological babble. Woke people consider all men to be members of the "patriarchy" so it's the same thing. You also claimed "that as long as he's working for what's right, he doesn't have to worry too much if people's trauma leads them to mistake him as being part of something wrong" except this so-called trauma is a lie. Men are not oppressing anyone, you haven't benefited from any such oppression and if people identify that young man as "part of something wrong" then he does in fact have to worry about that, because they will oppress him in false vengance even though he is innocent.
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Sure but that's not incentives work in businesses. If I can get a women engineer onto a certain team of extremely high performing all male engineers at my firm, I can get a bonus of 20k easily, and hit a DIE initiative goal which is good for my career. It's good for my career unless the team stops performing well, but if I've already leveraged it into another position then who cares ? These are some of dynamics occur…
You get bonuses specifically for hiring certain demographics? That sounds incredibly toxic, and I'm glad that where I work doesn't have anything like that. Teams I've created have always been fairly balanced on gender, and it's been good for productivity. When I've taken over all-male teams, and hired women, it's been good for productivity. That's just my experience, and I know it runs counter to some others, but the…
Measured how, because this sounds like post-hoc rationalization.