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Re: The haunting brain science of long Covid

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We did. It's called the "bivalent" booster. We have paxlovid and the omicron variants are much milder than the previous strains.

I had simply missed the news, apologies. EU: https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ecdc-ema-statement-booster... (sep 2022) Haven't been offered this, though.

In the US it's widely available, I got it something like a year ago.

Re: The haunting brain science of long Covid

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And yet people look at me like I have two heads when I explain that I’m still actively making every effort to avoid getting Covid. The long term brain damage is going to be a massive impact on companies who are forcing RTO and causing their employees to deal with repeat exposures to Covid from co-workers.

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What about the long term brain damage of isolating everyone for years straight

Sounds like you need to learn to be more adaptable. I've had no problem meeting with friends to walk outdoors, maintaining friendships throughout the pandemic, all without ever catching COVID.

a large sector of the population acting like a bunch of anxious cowards

Are you a coward for wearing a seatbelt in a car? How about a helmet when riding a motorcycle?

Re: The haunting brain science of long Covid

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We should also consider the effects of repeat infections and how they might contribute to long Covid. The hope is that ongoing repeat infections are 'mostly harmless' as our bodies are primed to deal with the virus. However it will be a while before we can be sure. One analogy I heard was that effectively we've brought back indoor smoking. Of course you can avoid indoor smoking by not using public transport, not goin…

Smoking is a great analogy, it's distributed exactly like secondhand smoke, causes chronic inflammation in the lungs, systemic health issues, and for now most people don't believe in it! Problem is covid may be dangerous in even smaller doses than smoke.

Re: The haunting brain science of long Covid

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We should also consider the effects of repeat infections and how they might contribute to long Covid. The hope is that ongoing repeat infections are 'mostly harmless' as our bodies are primed to deal with the virus. However it will be a while before we can be sure. One analogy I heard was that effectively we've brought back indoor smoking. Of course you can avoid indoor smoking by not using public transport, not goin…

They are not harmless. Studies so far show that damage is cumulative

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

Re: The haunting brain science of long Covid

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And yet people look at me like I have two heads when I explain that I’m still actively making every effort to avoid getting Covid. The long term brain damage is going to be a massive impact on companies who are forcing RTO and causing their employees to deal with repeat exposures to Covid from co-workers.

It's probable that people are unable to comprehend why someone would willingly undergo the same experiences we have all undergone for the past three years. I used to be firmly in the "I will do everything possible to avoid getting COVID-19" camp. However, I eventually contracted it and endured a challenging two-week sickness. After recovering, I decided that I am no longer willing to halt my life out of fear of catching it again because it is not worthwhile. Unless you have a compromised immune system or significant underlying health conditions, you will probably come to the same conclusion at some point. And then you will be looking at yourself from the past and wondering "what the hell was I thinking". As I do now.

Re: The haunting brain science of long Covid

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Where did they demand empathy?

Asking “what about ” is inherently asking you to provide some level of consideration for those people, but calling other people pansies is clearly not embodying the consideration being asked of. I don’t really feel strong about the actual topic being discussed, I just think the hypocrisy is disgusting.

I agree that name calling is always unhelpful, but I’m not seeing any hypocrisy in the comment. It seems to be a comment about how there are a plethora of reasons that the population may be experiencing cognitive issues.

Re: The haunting brain science of long Covid

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Why aren't we updating the mRNA vaccines to better combat the new variants? Wasn't the initial thinking that we'd all get an updated shot once or twice a year?

There is one, but it's not necessarily worth it because the original is "good enough". Also, future strains might be more like the 2020 version again; no reason they wouldn't be.

A better upgrade will be when it's a nasal spray. That's more effective at blocking transmission, and some people just don't like needles.

Re: The haunting brain science of long Covid

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A friend from college got long covid. In two years he lost the job, the GF, and the house. Went from being a buff, agile jujitsu black belt to shuffling along like an old drunk. In some sort of cruel irony he got crippling fatigue and insomnia at the same time. Can barely think clearly enough to write a simple email. Long covid is not a pretty thing to see.

Are you completely sure that's due to Long COVID? Because that sounds like an extremely common story of drug addiction: someone turns their normal life, complete with career and family and a white picket fence, into homelessness and relying on petty theft to survive. It's incredible (in a bad way) how quickly fentanyl can ruin people's lives.

This, by the way, is why I don't discuss that a had long covid ever, with anyone. I don't need random strangers on the Internet that I've never met to believe me, or even believe in Long Covid (half the Internet thinks the vaccine has microchips anyway) but almost none of my friends believe me, which hurt, but fine. It's the medical professionals who didn't believe my symptoms until after there had been a preponderance of outside evidence that they bothered to take my symptoms seriously that were the worst. Yeah I'm not in the best of shape, but if I can't walk from my bedroom to my kitchen without getting winded, something is seriously wrong, and it's not simply my muscles atrophying from being indoors due to lockdowns.

Eventually medical science was able to be convinced of long covid, thanks to, or unfortunately because enough doctors and nurses caught it, pre-vaccine, that it was impossible for the medical industry to ignore. When a healthy 20-year old athlete has the same problems with extreme fatigue, doctors aren't as readily able to dismiss it. These days there are clinics that specialize in Long Covid. Even though they're not able to help everybody, it's still better than going through it, along, mid 2020.

But yeah, sure, dismiss it as a drug problem if it'll help you go about your day.

Re: The haunting brain science of long Covid

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A friend from college got long covid. In two years he lost the job, the GF, and the house. Went from being a buff, agile jujitsu black belt to shuffling along like an old drunk. In some sort of cruel irony he got crippling fatigue and insomnia at the same time. Can barely think clearly enough to write a simple email. Long covid is not a pretty thing to see.

That sounds like depression possibly due to the pandemic or other compounding life circumstances, not long COVID.

Post-viral syndromes are real and if anything aren't exclusive to covid.

Re: The haunting brain science of long Covid

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What about the long term brain damage of isolating everyone for years straight Sounds like you need to learn to be more adaptable. I've had no problem meeting with friends to walk outdoors, maintaining friendships throughout the pandemic, all without ever catching COVID. a large sector of the population acting like a bunch of anxious cowards Are you a coward for wearing a seatbelt in a car? How about a helmet when ri…

> Sounds like you need to learn to be more adaptable. I've had no problem meeting with friends to walk outdoors, maintaining friendships throughout the pandemic, all without ever catching COVID.

Let this be a lesson: this is what privilege sounds like.

It's very easy to say "just be more adaptable" when your well-paying job is to sit at home, posting on reddit and occasionally resolving a bug ticket. Meanwhile, tens or hundreds of millions of people worldwide who work in hospitality, music/theatre/other live performances, conferences and events, tourism, etc. had their livelihoods absolutely crushed by COVID restrictions. They got government handouts and still barely survived.

But yeah, nobody cares about those people; they don't matter since they're not FAANG employees. They should just adapt and learn how to code red-black trees on a whiteboard to get a job at Meta.

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