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Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Ah yes, an addon whitelist. How very community friendly of Mozilla... And they wonder why their market share plummets the way it does, making such extremely user hostile decisions like that.

Playing devil's advocate here, don't they need to protect their users from nefarious add ons that could steal data?

Then don't use addons.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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This is a good thing, but it feels like Mozilla is putting a Band-Aid over the huge gaping wound they cut in Firefox for Android when they disabled nearly all the extensions.

My guess is they are afraid they might lose Google money if they enable too much freedom. But they have also been losing users, and without users they have no leverage.

I use some addons that weren't whitelisted trough the addon collection trick.

Many addons plain don't work. The mobile browser doesn't have the UI these addons rely on and maybe there's some API coverage missing.

I considered this a fair reason when the rewrite was released, you could still use the old Firefox for a while. But then time passed and nothing changed.

It's clear the Fenix devs don't have the capacity or the interest to maintain addon support.

There are many silly things about the browser rewrite. For instance, you can't enter an IPv6 address and navigate to it (i.e. http://[::1]/). Firefox will always Google it. You can click a link from another app and the page will load just fine, but the address bar just doesn't understand those addresses. Then there's the fact about:config is disabled in stable versions of Firefox. Or the fact that enabling user-installed certificate authorities requires you to go into debug settings.

I don't think Mozilla has a clear idea what it wants with their browser, it feels so unfinished in so many ways.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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What did those people switch to? I can't imagine browsing without ubo, what other options do I have?

I think Semaphor was being sarcastic; Firefox never had any meaningful usage on mobile, certainly not 20%.

Ah, I was hoping there was some amazing little known fork with lots of promise. My wildly optimistic hope is that servo takes flight now it appears it isn't just a research project. I'd love to help, but I know nothing about web or UI stuff, all my code is cli or embedded rust/cuda.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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why aren't more people just running Fennec? it supports all plugins which are supported by desktop and is available from F-droid.

You can install all addons in Fennec, but getting them to work is a whole different challenge. Always worth a shot, but many addons don't work or their UI is unusable.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Feel free to implement this in HomeActivity::onKeyDown. ( https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-android/blob/ce68e... ). Check for the appropriate modifiers on your key event + R, and call components.useCases.sessionUseCases.reloadUrl(). Why is it so bad ? Because noone uses a keyboard on mobile. Because if they had spent time implementing any other features that are used by 0.0001% of users, you'd have been comp…

Web developers are, indeed a tiny fraction of the overall userbase for web browsers. Why browser makers might want to cater to their needs anyway is left as an exercise for the reader.

Why browser makers might not want to cater to web developers wanting to use a keyboard on a platform that is used at 99.9% through touch controls, platform on which we both know they neither develop on (when is the last time you made a website on your tablet?) or even test on, is indeed left as an exercise for the reader.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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I don't understand why Mozilla artificially limits what addons can be used on android. I've been using Tampermonkey on android for years, and it worked fine, just like other addons that don't happen to have yet been blessed so that users are granted the privilege of being able to choose to install them. For reference, to work around mozilla's artificial restrictions, you have to use nightly. Once you activate the deb…

I find it very concerning that Mozilla has such an artificial limit on what addons can be used on Android. Do you know why they have set up such a limit?

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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And why is mouse/keyboard and stylus support so bad on mobile? Most of the normal browsing hotkeys don't work, even though people can use that setup a good bit with tablets and foldables.

Feel free to implement this in HomeActivity::onKeyDown. ( https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-android/blob/ce68e... ). Check for the appropriate modifiers on your key event + R, and call components.useCases.sessionUseCases.reloadUrl(). Why is it so bad ? Because noone uses a keyboard on mobile. Because if they had spent time implementing any other features that are used by 0.0001% of users, you'd have been comp…

Tablets often come with keyboards.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Yeah, I remember before they removed all addons, they had over 20% market share on mobile. Those were the days.

What did those people switch to? I can't imagine browsing without ubo, what other options do I have?

It never did, I was being sarcastic. Most users on phones use chrome or safarIE, as those come preinstalled.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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I've landed on using the F-droid build instead of Nightly. That also allows custom extension collections, and I believe Mozilla's attitude was that they get more telemetry for Nightly as they consider that an opt-in somehow (or at least they did for the desktop app).

How do you install Firefox via F-droid? (I searched, but don't see it listed in my F-droid store directly.) Do you use the FFupdater app?

I recommend the fork Mull: https://f-droid.org/packages/us.spotco.fennec_dos/

It includes privacy-related improvements. See more: https://gitlab.com/divested-mobile/mull-fenix

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