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Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by asddubs »

noirscape wrote: post #76
sp332 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For Android, yeah, they have a short list of allowed addons. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/search/?promoted=re... You can get past it if you're willing to run Nightly and jump through these hoops: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extensio...

It's worth pointing out that this isn't truly "getting past it". It's still locked to Mozilla's add-on store (preventing you from testing or manually loading extension bundles) and all you're really doing is switching the collection that Fenix loads the extensions from to one you control instead. One of the bigger reasons to use Fennec instead (the old Firefox Android browser, still maintained as a community fork) fo…

what's the difference between the old and new firefox android browser? is it a separate codebase? different UI?

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by [deleted] »

moralestapia wrote: post #151
jraph wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If only Brendan Eich could have stayed at Mozilla instead of getting excommunicated Mozilla actually encouraged him to stay by giving him the role of CEO. He decided to step out. > First, though, there's a matter that we should all be clear about: Brendan Eich was not fired. After his appointment, there was backlash from the Mozilla Community. He came under pressure to resign and he did. The Mozilla Board that appo…

>Mozilla actually encouraged him to stay by giving him the role of CEO. He decided to step out. Sure, but for those that don't know the story, Brendan was being portrayed as being evil incarnate because of the donations (which were a perfectly legal thing to do, btw). Brendan's resignation was his way of saying "f*ck this crap, I have better stuff to do", and he showed. >they simply wouldn't have given him the job in…

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Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by Semaphor »

LightHugger wrote: post #60
jraph wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A big thing for me is that Tampermonkey is not open source. And yes, Firefox on Android has an allowlist of "known working good" extensions, the reason given being that Firefox for Android doesn't implement everything the Desktop version implements and IIUC, want to a avoid users blaming the browser when something breaks because of it.

Ah yes, an addon whitelist. How very community friendly of Mozilla... And they wonder why their market share plummets the way it does, making such extremely user hostile decisions like that.

Yeah, I remember before they removed all addons, they had over 20% market share on mobile. Those were the days.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by jraph »

moralestapia wrote: post #151
jraph wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If only Brendan Eich could have stayed at Mozilla instead of getting excommunicated Mozilla actually encouraged him to stay by giving him the role of CEO. He decided to step out. > First, though, there's a matter that we should all be clear about: Brendan Eich was not fired. After his appointment, there was backlash from the Mozilla Community. He came under pressure to resign and he did. The Mozilla Board that appo…

>Mozilla actually encouraged him to stay by giving him the role of CEO. He decided to step out. Sure, but for those that don't know the story, Brendan was being portrayed as being evil incarnate because of the donations (which were a perfectly legal thing to do, btw). Brendan's resignation was his way of saying "f*ck this crap, I have better stuff to do", and he showed. >they simply wouldn't have given him the job in…

> are you aware that Brendan co-founded Mozilla?

Yep.

> HE was the one that gave them THEIR jobs.

Yeah, no. Being co-founder is not everything. He was CTO back then. He pretty much didn't give them their jobs, alone anyway. And of course, to go from CTO to CEO, the board gave him the job. I don't know how that can be wrong.

And in any case it does not give him any specific kind of immunity against criticism.

Note that I didn't write this sentence, I'm quoting the linked article.

> which were a perfectly legal thing to do, btw

Of course. But legal ≠ good. Not speaking about Brendan because my opinion on this is irrelevant, but I'm sure you can find something legal that you don't like. For Brendan homosexual wedding is one example of something legal that's bad, if his opinion on this matter hasn't changed.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by officeplant »

isaacfrond wrote: post #141
MallocVoidstar wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a while Ghostery was owned by an ad company, and for a while Ghostery would add ads to browsers (IIRC). The first is no longer the case, not sure about the second.

Ghostery? I've been using it for years, with complete satisfaction. Hardly ever that I see adverts.

As soon as it got bought up by an ad company it just felt like a poisoned well so I stopped using it / recommending it to friends. Their reputation suffered so I stopped paying attention to see if they got any better.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by 2h »

nfriedly wrote: post #135
sundarurfriend wrote: post #108

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It seems like Iceraven doesn't have this restriction, and works like Firefox on Android originally used to?

Iceraven still has a list of allowed extensions, but they added several hundred extensions to the default list rather than Mozilla's dozen or so. (It also supports custom lists like Fennec and FF Nightly.)

> Iceraven still has a list of allowed extensions

where is that list?

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by skeeter2020 »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #158
moralestapia wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Mozilla actually encouraged him to stay by giving him the role of CEO. He decided to step out. Sure, but for those that don't know the story, Brendan was being portrayed as being evil incarnate because of the donations (which were a perfectly legal thing to do, btw). Brendan's resignation was his way of saying "f*ck this crap, I have better stuff to do", and he showed. >they simply wouldn't have given him the job in…

> Brendan was being portrayed as being evil incarnate because of the donations (which were a perfectly legal thing to do, btw). Im not sure why you posted this as it has never been suggested that his donation was illegal. The campaign against his appointment as CTO was on the basis that his financial support for proposition 8 showed him to be hostile to the protection of civil rights for some members of society, incl…

>> The campaign

And this really is the crux, isn't it:

1. a political campaign inside Mozilla

2. by some employees that interpreted risk that

3. his donations were an attack on what they perceived as their rights

4. and this made him unable to fulfill the role of CTO

That's a whole lot of one-side conclusions to get to "he's unfit to be the CTO". No wonder he left.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by sphars »

xdfgh1112 wrote: post #74
Epskampie wrote: post #29

Awesome but i really really want "I don't care about cookies". Please please let us have it (without having to jump through strange hoops)

Get Fdroid and install Fennec, it can do any Firefox extension iirc.

Hmm I use F-droid Fennec daily, and it has the same whitelist of available extensions as regular Firefox. I don't see how to add your own, unless you go through the hoops of enabling debug mode (described elsewhere in another comment)

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by nfriedly »

2h wrote: post #166
nfriedly wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iceraven still has a list of allowed extensions, but they added several hundred extensions to the default list rather than Mozilla's dozen or so. (It also supports custom lists like Fennec and FF Nightly.)

> Iceraven still has a list of allowed extensions where is that list?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/1620123...

(It's linked to from Iceravens readme: https://github.com/fork-maintainers/iceraven-browser )

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